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Bit off topic then really...

There are loads of junk yards around Derby to hide stuff :-)

I love it that SWR have only just realised this!! SWT realised it when they ran them many years ago and fell over themselves to get rid. Whatever twit decided to reintroduce this heritage stock deserves all they get. If they actually get any running by the big May timetable change, make sure...

This is the most sensible thread in this post. Well done the penny has finally dropped......

The latest one or two have Alstom ETCS kit fitted as well, so the early refurbs will have have to go back for this to be fitted sometime.

Still missing the point

Debating the definition of 'narrow'.......really?

Seats that provide a reasonable level of comfort. First are going to get rid of all these at god knows what cost to the taxpayer and provide ironing boards with the the legroom reduced to midget size. An improvement apparently.

You don't honestly think the new franchise would be clever enough to spot that do you?

Gosh that's rare these days! Ever since new franchise started the WOE service has gone to pieces, short formations and terminating at Basingstoke is a daily occurrence now.

I used to work on these and don't think recall them doing it to that extent. There can be a slight difference due to the system hysteresis sometimes caused by the relay valve balance, but this should not be relied upon to provide an increased brake force

Indeed, tread brakes are a whole different story due to the variable friction at different speeds

Ah good old Scotrail....did they fit all the brake pads? :)

Ops sorry, I only quoted your exact words...I thought the train pipe provided brake control pressure but will bow to your superior knowledge. Perhaps you can enlighten me as to the 'blue star' braking system you are referring to please?

I tend to agree. NTAR is 50% sponsored by Siemens so it is all about them, rather biased I am afraid

Interesting question; The three-step braking system is designed for simplicity and reliability. The braking on each vehicle is applied consistently throughout the train and the brake pad friction is almost even at all speeds. The three steps provide a low-medium-high selection of brake force...

Just for the record HST's have a digitally-controlled two-pipe brake control system, so there are plenty of '....air pipes to faff around with' !

That would be funny if it wasn't true!

Thanks, I think that is the point I was trying to make. Dragging a 25Kv cable exposed on the roof looks like an afterthought rather then good design.

Inspection of Traction Motor Covers, but not sure why. Possibly risk of detachment I would guess.