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As the OP, can I just say that any discussion of how to define/find/use/avoid doubling back is defnitely NOT hijacking.

Good Point, obviously. At unstaffed stations it would rely on your honesty. But if you didn't fill in the TO box when you left the train, you'll have to put something in it before you resume your journey. And when you do resume your journey (assuming here), you have to put this station's...

Protecting Short Starts and Stops One way TOCs might want to control fraudulent repeated use of return coupons is to restrict Breaks of Journey. It's perhaps even the simplest way, because if Breaks of Journey aren't allowed, the first TM stamp invalidates the ticket for future use. But...

An effective system to control "Open Return" fraud while allowing BOJs ? If there really are very few Breaks Of Journey on anytime or offpeak returns, then TOCs won't spend money on fancy systems to support BOJs. Or would move to ban BOJs if they got in the way of any new system to control...

Thanks, Yorkie and MikeWh. That was really illuminating. I was beginning to wonder if I'd asked a stupid question. I'm glad it wasn't. "The Routeing Guide In Detail" mentions doubling back quite a lot. But all the pictorial examples it gives of how to spot doubling back all look like...

@150222 Well I know it's a bit "Islington cum Hippyville On't Moors" but I've always liked it (healthfood and bong shops next to window displays of lamb-knackering shears) . Does your cryptic comment hint at secret knowledge.....?

After lurking here for so long, I think I'm getting the hang of Routeing now. One thing I've never seen stated explicitly, though it is implied by the routeing solutions people offer, is whether the maps give all the information necessary to check that a proposed permitted route does not...

Great call, Mutant Lemming, The SY/WY day tickets make a good combination because they join up properly. For instance, Denby Dale is in W Yorks but is also covered by the S Yorks card. You have to use a train that stops at the changeover station, but if you are going via Denby Dale they all...

My twopennorth. Abandon returns and price singles more sensibly. Or Restrict the validity of the return coupon to one (two?) days after it's first stamped. ... or to a fixed number of BOJs (ie invalid after x stamps in the boxes provided) Or The guard asks you if you are...

Ferret, Sorry if I sound too much of a wuss..... I guess we agree on lots of things - I understand and am happy to use split ticketing. As Yorkie says, it's ridiculous that a long, direct, journey should be dearer than a roundabout sequence of short journeys. And it's infuriating that...

What a horrible experience. You seemed pretty calm, I would have been in bits! Glad it ended OK. I'm used to using splits, but only at an elementary level - where the the first ticket becomes completely used up at the station where the second one starts. This split was definitely a level...

I don't mind too much the screens in the waiting room/ticket office cycling through umpteen pages including the bossy/nanny pages. In fact, there are sometimes so many pages that the safety screen adds only about 20% to the time for page 1 to come around. But even there it would be better if...

Thanks for the prompt and clear reply. I could even do a round trip with ships! via Embra, and the Irish Sea. I could use the second day on the free ticket for Heysham Port to home. The ticket expires end of August. Pity, that. Or I might have waited until Scotrail brought Club55 back...

I signed up with Northern to try for their free tickets. I'm not usually a sucker for these things but I reckoned I'd give it a go as it didn't cost anything, and Northern would be able to give away plenty of tickets. Yesterday my ticket arrived! Woohoo! The freedom of Northern's luxury...

If you are travelling with ordinary (advance, single or return) tickets then your train needs to stop at the station where your tickets split. Might you have to change trains anywhere? If so, you are covered for delays even with advance tickets, provided you allowed enough time for the...

If the ticket inspector tells you that his reading machine can't find a ticket on your card, or shows you a readout that says "Child Ticket", what are you going to say? "That's funny, I know I bought a valid ticket. Either the TVM didn't work properly, or my card is broken, or your reader is...

I've started to see if I can find who is sticking to the line that the cheapest tickets go on sale first. Results so far. These quotes are from sites where tickets are actually sold, so the words surely must count as some kind of promise, and not be dismissed as 'mere marketing twaddle' with...

... for very clear answers. Couldn't be clearer, in fact. I keep thinking I've 'got it' then another query comes up that makes me realise I'm still a long way off! I've got another Q or two, but I'll hold fire to see if anyone else chips in. Edit: Just noticed I asked one question...

I'm a long-time lurker, picking up really useful stuff - thanks everyone. I rarely post a question because usually by the time I've grasped what it is I don't know, someone has supplied the answer. However, this thread was just pulling together some of the points I would have liked clarifying...

Yes, you can split your ticket at a station where the train calls, and you do not have to get off and on again. But here is a possible warning. I realise this doesn't apply in the OP's case, but it seems a good opportunity to confirm a potential risk with splitting Advance tickets if you...