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some are to be moved to Pig's Bay MoD following a drop in work. Source is Rail Business Insider magazine.

20s are for snow clearance if they are from HNRC.

according to my sources it is at Reading West yard.

i just don't want to open the whole debate over whether HSTs are DMUs or loco hauled, etc. but yeah. nah, your head would explode as my ego would have sucked the intelligence out of you as ell as everyone else in here :lol:

at around 1530, saw 90043+90042 both in 2 tone grey railfreight livery (?) without the EWS logos as yet hauling tanks out of stratford.

ok point taken. let me rephrase, loco haled train by a diesel locomotive with no DVT, and needs to run around the train, in the old school way, by which i define loco hauled (ie, the caledoinan sleepers from edinburgh to inverness/aberdeen, ft bill; the penzance sleeper; and erm... that's about...

i say who cares, it is still a loco hauled passenger train in the UK which is rather rare.

*looks at FGW Fan and points to another empty wagon travelling next to him* there's only room for one ego on this bandwagon - that's MINE! :lol:

why is double heading restricted? axle weights? i've seen a 67 hauling railhead wagons northbound towards Ft William while I was on the 12xx out of ft bill. so that would be one slow train then.

that's not properly growing up. proper growing up is puberty.

y not just double head 20s, or 73s or other branchline-type locomotives?

i don't think it is pessimism but merely an accurate judgement of the mentality/attitude of enthusiasts who like their old stuff, and only like them instead of opening their minds. to me, a train is a train, and i like trains, so i like most of them.

Mk IIIs have alot of plastic. are they "plaz"? your argument makes no sense.

ah someone who finally sees the light!

before too long ppl will begin complaining about them being plastic anyway.

they don't have that much character. i've had better EEs overseas (india, malaysia, ireland, and i hear those in australia were good too)

when are u kids gonna realise that trains aren't made/built/hauled by certain locomotives for enthusiasts?

what about kid free or kids only carriages? imagine if we had a meet and half of the ppl who turn up for the meet are banished to the kids only carriage :lol:

h-o is for ppl who froth at the mouth at the sight of a train or being on board a train. i don't do it because i choose nto to be associated with "rotten veg".

no disrespect to the dead... but shame they didn't live to learn the lesson. they were irresponsible, and paid dearly. where was the guy who shuts the gate? couldn't he have yelled? or was it too late? we dunno. i'll bet their parents will need to live with the fact that they may not...