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What a great idea.. Particularly as I have said before, this whole extrapolated debate is purely hypothetical because HS2 will never happen.

JohnO... or should it not be Oh John. How qualified are you to state that there is no one travelling between these various routes? Taking out short car trips and replacing them with local journeys with well run, efficient, clean and timely local trains would have far more impact on carbon...

Philip, firstly let me say that I agree with what you say. Sadly there are a number of people who post regularly on this site whose motives are nothing more than “rail is good, everything else is bad”. Often they use the unproven, and further still, unresearched “green argument”. Moreover most...

Well, according to a website that calculates carbon footprints, a current rail journey between London and Edinburgh would produce a CO2/km figure of 57g. Compare that to the figure I calculated of 36g per passenger in a flight between the same and I would wager that new trains travelling at...

Well even if they got it 100% wrong, that's still only £4 billion, a fraction of the cost of the HS2 proposal. And I raised the issue of environmental credentials on another thread and this was greeted with deafening silence. What is the CO2/km per seat of one of these wunder trains? Does...

there's already a thread going on interminately about HS2. Where are the moderators? Now back to the thread subject. What I said was there were two reasons for BMI withdrawing their services. Taxes and competition. You covered the competition bit fine. It’s the taxes which are killing off...

I have sat on the sidelines on this debate, mainly because on this site the level of ignorance about aviation is so great that any informed opinion pro flying is given such a negative and ill informed response that it is not worth contributing. However, this post can’t go unresponded...

The main reason stated for HS2 is it frees up extra capacity.... Well, today the company operating services between London and the West Midlands has gone out of business. I guess that extra capacity isn't as much in demand as the pro HS2s want us to believe.

The problem with the pro HS2 argument is the blind faith that the budget for the construction of this will not increase or overrun. Sadly, this faith is very much misplaced. If changing a few junctions or adding a couple of tracks in a few places can be so grossly over cost, then what hope...

Of course it is a political decision. I am knocking all politicians not just conservatives. Making a choice like this is the sort of decision that politicians find easy and love. It makes good headlines and the subsequent effects will be felt long after the decision makers have shuffled off to...

You show enormous faith in politicians.... As to self interest, conservatives picking on safe conservative seats is actually the easiest thing to do. The chances of such consituencies voting anything other than Tory are next to zero, so actually they are the softest targets. As to projections...

I think I may have made the point before, but it is worth repeating. Lest we forget, it was a group of politicians which took the decision to rip up a huge amount of the railway network in the 1960s. This was a typical political decision based on the combined evils of self interest, incorrect...

Well, one man''s false and misleading information is another man's facts. I am afraid what tends to happen, particularly on this site, is that the pro-lobby, whether it be for hs2 or rail vs air etc, tend to take a stalinist propogandan attitude to anyone who dares to question their so called...

I just have. I can't see that it is "crap" at all, except in your opinion, which I would be happy to read.

What I am picking up from this thread is that despite HS2 being a high speed line, journeys times between London and the north are unlikely to any better than now. In addition, that it is only protestors rightly trying to defend their position that postulate "lies". That's not a very...

Firstly, the business case for HS2 is totally different to the numerouus business cases to upgrade, improve or re-open existing lines, so the first argument is a non starter. HS2 is a very narrow corridor transport option, and I think you're right it will only bring benefits to one county...

This is the point that I have been making. Spreading £17,000,000,0000 around the network would tick many more boxes than building one line between London & Birmingham which will simply draw more economic development out of Brum and into London when people realise they can easily commute between...

So, if I may take the opportunity to summarize the recent contributions to this thread... 1. The cost of the project is around £35,000,000,000 and it is debatable what benefits that amount of money will bring. For example : 2. The benefits of losing great swathes of countryside along...

I can't believe someone can write/think the above. Firstly, history, if it teaches us anything, tells us to learn by our mistakes. I don't think anyone is proud of the Stokenchurch cutting, that's why people don't want it to happen again... As to "my countryside is better than your...

With regard to MPs representing the views of their constituencies I bet you, Yes to HS2, to would be the first to complain if your local MP didn't represent the views of the majority in your constinuency. I might be wrong but the consituencies that are most affected in the Chilterns, for...