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With six lines running to/from it the possibilities for Crewe and Compatibles are very wide and there's 20 years to build the business cases for all the options. Having said that of course two of those lines don't have electricity so couldn't run Compatibles unless upgraded. I'm wondering...

It would be interesting to see the reaction of the Great British Public if the Government announced that HS2 tickets were going to be 50% of the price of equivalent mileage journeys by Classic rail. The 'it's going to all be at a massive premium' people would have to eat their hats. I suspect...

Ah but does the price per include building new termini and stations plus other infrastructure or is it just line building?

The 'grim up north' factor is inaccurate and outdated, driven by southern based media living on preconceptions that never really existed in the first place. Quite why so many people like living in such a crowded and traffic bedevilled area as south east England is beyond me. I was born and...

I'm sorry but you're talking about something that's going to happen in 20 years time, not 2013. Don't you think that public transport will be reorganised so that direct services to Toton from both Derby and Nottingham will be the norm by then? My own personal experience of the only time I...

Just thought of another issue that might affect things and that's passenger volume. How many direct Chester to Euston trains and return are there these days? If it's only the odd one then there's little point putting in all that infrastructure and creating a 'no go' line for Classics that use...

A touch ingenuous leaving out my next bit Philip, so I've added it above. My point is that people hanker after city centre stations because that's what they're generally used to because the Victorians built the originals that way. Looked at through modern eyes it's probably why the railway...

Well as Mrs SDA tells me when she sets off on one of her shopping trips 'It's 20 minutes running time from Crewe to Chester'. As the Bear says you'd not get up to HS2 running speed before having to apply the brakes. I don't know Chester Station, but has it room for 400m long double decker...

Not sure if I follow Stephen C's logic. A network with city centre stations that runs to OOC which isn't a city centre station. Forgive me but one could argue that what's good for the goose is good for the gander and that terminating at OOC is terminating at London's version of Manc...

What sort of timescale are we talking here? If Phase 2 is 20 years from opening and further phases are required to generate the traffic bottleneck it could be many decades before the issue arises. Getting politicians to actually think of a project with a 20 year timecycle is an enormous...

I'd go for Option M too, in fact we only posted here the other day that they missed a trick not going that way in the first place. In some ways it would mean that all the track across from the west to Toton would be wasted and although it's nice to have the connection for XC type routeing...

I'd agree Keighley is not Haslemere, but there are parts that given sunshine and leaves on the trees are OK AND the beauty is you can be out on the hills with not another soul or a car in sight in minutes. In the south east there are lots of places you'd have to travel an hour or more to find...

That's a touch patronising Richmond. As one who was fed up to the rear molars after nearly 30 years on and off commuting into London I leapt at the chance to 'emigrate' to North Yorkshire in '93. This despite my daughter saying she'd never be able to wear a T shirt again :lol: I can't say...

That would certainly make GNERs old coach 'tag line' look a bit sick :roll:

Isn't the plan for southern ECML basically the same as the plan for WCML and maybe MML too. That is to cut all (or maybe most) fast long distance services, moving those passengers over to HS2. That'll leave paths free which will allow intensification of local services on southern portions of...

My father-in-law was a Sheffield lad and I was going to include The Sicey pub in the post, until I remembered it had already been knocked down. I do love this bit from the spoof Hendo's website. It says about the factory 'And the water authorities often get upset as the plant uses 200...

They're not the easiest of things to read and north keeps wobbling about from page to page. You'd think they'd put some work into making it more readable to the general public. The pages are just as bad as Phase 1 and you'd have thought they'd have learned a bit by now and improved the...

:lol::lol::lol: To be fair, Leeds is on a spur too. Sheffield definitely isn't on a spur, but they're not happy. There again I suspect the South Yorkshire folk who complain about Meadowhall would probably complain if the line was due to run slap through the middle of Bramall Lane, the...

It's planned to run west of Culcheth, roughly following the curves of an old trackbed (sorry don't know the area and the name of the old line). So Culcheth will be between HS2 and Chat Moss. Oh and in reality that's not a spur, that's the main HS2, Manchester is on a spur.

Just been mulling things over whilst driving back from Nantwich via Crewe bypass and it's awe inspiring (not) view of Crewe's southern approaches. At what point in its 20 year gestation period should we expect to see fruits of the regeneration HS2 is supposed to drive? Leaving aside the...