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I appreciate it, I wasn't a million miles off! The town was well covered in those days. Strangely, I never, ever got the bus to Clydebank though, we always saw that as a job for the train!

Digging through my very rusty memory of the mid to late 90s from the Dumbarton D routes side I recall the Helensburgh route wasn't a D number and it only ran to Dumbarton at the time. The route that I remember served Clydebank was the D2 which went from Westcliff - Dumbarton - Bellsmyre(?) -...

Maybe that's why the previous administration donated so much to that church? :D

Similar to the re-entering fleet discussion, any examples of vehicles being sold on by their operators, only for them to come back to haunt their former owner in service for a direct competitor? Whether the sale was direct (quite unlikely) or via other parties counts I would say. Direct...

I'll be interested to see what the Bamford era Wright's end up being like, given the huge quality issues in the latter days of Wright's before they went into administration. Was the quality loss due to a desperation to deliver orders, or cheapening of component quality to reduce costs? I don't...

ScotRail 398 is pretty strange all round! It plugs a strange gap in an otherwise very well served city. https://www.scotrail.co.uk/plan-your-journey/travel-connections/glasgow-stations-link-bus

In terms of the variation all the above has caused, Lothian 190 passed me on a Dunbar bound 106 when I was out for my daily exercise earlier.

Slightly off topic but I remember being told that old B58s with manual boxes could defeat the limiter by staying out of top gear, always wondered if it was true. I'd imagine they had the grunt for it!

The oldest B9s are from what 2007(?) so I'd imagine the target would be to get them gone by 15 years old so 2022, but that was before Corona - that may change things for years to come across every industry, let alone within Lothian. When they were treated to FOTF (which imo does not sit on the...

I guess the problem with changing routes you've got to plan it, reschedule drivers, issue briefings, reschedule all your vehicle movements and then figure out how your going to get proper word out there to the users, and then again when you back it all out again. Sometimes you chase a benefit...

Any idea what they've gone with?

But what if you keep the hospital passing routes at near full service, and curtail all the others and staff need to use two buses to get to work - one you've preserved and one you've cut? I think the notion I'd suggest we accept is there is no perfect at the moment. It's very hard to social...

Despite Hall being gone he would only have signed off plans, not been the sole voice at the table. Do people seriously think big companies are run like Germany was in the early 1940s? One man deciding everything? Obviously engineering are happy with Volvo products, and if an order is already in...

I think they'll hold onto them and possibly continue to sweat them as they won't want to get caught short of service levels need to go up and delivery of replacements is impacted.

I was going to say the same thing, I like it otherwise, the gold side flash looks a little too 80s for me.

I think on balance, accessibility standards have killed off true DP vehicles. Coaches can be fitted with accessibility options but don't really come close to replicating desired speed of boarding or acquisition cost of a bus. Panther LE whilst a noble idea doesn't quite pull off the "perfect...

LB bid for the 20 and lost it to First and didn't bid at all for the 63, according to the relevant thread.

Pretty much.

I remember in the 80s and 90s the term "dual purpose" was generally used for coach seated vehicles that were able to run bus routes. Alexander T and TE bodied Leopards, Tigers and Dorchester's in SBG territories for example. The term seems to have fallen out of use, but coach seated buses at...

You do know that's pretty much the dictionary definition of collusion? Secret agreement for tit for tat withdrawal, to the detriment of customers! That aside, I don't think First will withdraw, that's the thing, BBT doesn't owe them much as it's low cost and will be more than covering its way...