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Brings to mind the incident on the turntable at Garsdale in 1900 (I think) when a loco was sent spinning by strong winds!

CJ has far from "some limited use" as an entry/exit!

That is a good point. However, surely the current system is untenable, or do people actually believe it works OK? BTW, I have never seen any publicity about how first class works on TL - it may have been posted but, if so, it has eluded me. I use the first class, but I would happily see it go...

Yes, obviously avoiding the humps but towards the centre such that only one area exists per unit and there is never any doubt whether it is in use. There is also the point that if the seats are made more comfortable throughout, perhaps first class will be redundant (while also recognising that...

I had understood from discussions quite a while back that the 'ironing board' seats' thin-ness was required by fire risk requirements - clearly either that was wrong or standards/requirements have changed.

They should put a single first section in the centre, or abolish it altogether. The current arrangement is ludicrous.

You should try my line - the North Downs! The provision of first class has been on and off so many times in the last several years that I don't think even the staff know what is happening. They certainly don't enforce it. I know because I am willing to bet that school children don't have...

I thought Southern was 30 seconds - it may have changed. In any case, I don't think the GWR train in question was a 'commuter" working. Others may have slumped to 40 seconds now as well, I suppose. I wonder if GBR might standardise it...

In the mix with all the other stuff here, I imagine GWR's (unique?) 40-second doors closure policy may be scrutinised... 1787573598 Of course - all is well, then...:rolleyes:

Thanks - I happily sit corrected! One thing I'm also unclear about - is the 27C the air temperature or rail temperature?

That is pathetic, but nothing about the abysmal information system on our railways today surprises me anymore.

I doubt if any TOC bosses care much anymore, knowing they will be taken in-house soon. Things are withering badly, with more and more bad decisions being revealed.

Centre...

Apologies if it has been mentioned already, but the CCTV from the rear of a previous train shows a bag, or bags, of what is presumably ballast standing by the line at the point of the kink. Does this indicate preparation for a job to be done (i.e. with knowledge of the defect) but yet to be...

With an hourly off peak service I don't imagine there would be much of a reduction!

It isn't a road beneath and, in any case, any strike hard enough to deform both tracks would certainly have required closure, not to mention demolishing the parapets in the process. I also think we would have heard about such a bridge strike by now.

BBC News has an updated story, incuding CCTV from a previous train, which shows a slight kink in the track and what appears to be a similar kink in the other line's track, albeit less severe. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gx12v8z51o

It managed to lose nearly two and a half hours en route, too.

Quite - if, for example, track undulations are caused by widespread ground drying and shifting (as with the WoE route), what 'maintenance' could be reasonably expected - soaking miles of formation with water repeatedly to keep it intact? I think not.

Also my thinking about the Lewes derailment.