It was a bit of a storm in a teacup.
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Indeed they are, ever since the said garage got on the hands of the 123 from Arriva at the end of February, service has been atrocious on lot of their routes including the 123 and the 144 which was also won from Arriva in October 2025. Long gaps, frequent cancellations, buses being dumped at changeover points so at Tottenham Hale while on the mid route for the 123 and at Edmonton Green stand for the 144.
One recent positive to come from Go Ahead is that they are finally getting allocations in order over in east London! With the school routes leaving RR the 147 is finally fully hybrid bar a couple of stray 13 reg E400s but they are rare. Also the 330 over at DS now has a majority EH allocation well over a year into its tender.
Worse still, some Northumberland Park drivers are still taking wrong turnings in Ilford on the 123; this has been going on since they started. The 123 has been a shambles since they took it over, with dreadful gaps and frequent bunching.
Yes, I think that was always the plan, and now operating all day instead of finishing at 8pm. The re-routing will also partially compensate for lost capacity between Nags Head and Stamford Hill when the 254 is withdrawn.
Someone has replaced one of the bus capacitors with a flux capacitor?
No route has been contracted for New Routemasters beyond 2030. One can only speculate about what this means for their future.
I imagine the same applies to all non electric buses in London. I'm sure other routes contracted with diesels and hybrids (Volvos, E400Hs etc) are also only being done with short contracts.
Routes 201, 419 and 667 have recently been awarded with diesels/hybrids as late as 2034
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London is huge and the stand space problems are all over the city, completely irrelevant that there happens to be an empty bus station somewhere if its nowhere near the problem
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Thanks. Good to know about that forum as the thread actually answered some of my questions about the oddities on the schedules page recently.It is down at the moment. See
Bus WTTs nearly double
@jamesevans Thanks. In the meantime, the current WTTs (as well as thousands of obsolete ones) can still be accessed via my website London Bus Timetable Graveyard . If you want a specific route you can get it through a link like Working Timetable (Time Schedule) Graveyard - Route 220 (for route...
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Thanks for highlighting. For the D7 withdrawal, is the implication that the frequency of other routes would stay the same? Maybe I’ve missed it, but that doesn’t seem to be stated in the consultation documents.More TfL bus restructuring has gone up for consultation today. I won’t quote whole of each page as they’re all too long to fit in this post but in summary:
Isle of Dogs: D7 withdrawn and SL4, 135, D6 and 277 rerouted to partially replace itIsle of Dogs bus restructure
Find out about TfL’s consultation on proposals to change bus services in Isle of Dogs
South West: C3 withdrawn, partially replaced by 74 diversion to Clapham Junction instead of Putney, 430 increased frequencyBus routes C3, 74 and 430 - proposed restructure
Find out more about our plans to restructure bus routes C3, 74 and 430 and have your say by taking our survey.
Elephant & Castle: 415 withdrawn, partially replaced by 333 extension to Old Kent RoadWithdrawal of route 415 and changes to route 333
Have your say on proposed changes to bus routes 415 and 333. Find out about plans to withdraw route 415 and extend route 333 to Old Kent Road.
The C3 and D7 were both proposed for withdrawal as part of TfL’s 2021 Central London Bus Review. Although given a stay of execution the report issued at the time simply said that the changes weren’t being proceeded with at that time.
I think the D7 is the final heir to the original D1 Docklands Clipper, which was the first transport route specifically targeted at the Docklands, at the start of redevelopment. From Poplar, round and indeed through 'The Island' (Isle of Dogs) and up to Mile End station, which was the initial Underground focus and at one stage was going to be where the DLR might run to. It had its own single-decked buses with specific branding on them, at a time when everything else was just painted in corporate standard. They never ran frequently enough to be useful though.
