European timetables 2027

Austriantrain · 17 Jun 2026

I hope it is alright to start a general thread on news about changes/improvements to European timetables in 2027 (not precluding specific threads for individual services of course).

First two:
1. SNCF, SNCB and SBB have announced that they will run a trial weekend Brussels - Strasbourg - Basel TGV service by extending one train pair a day from Strasbourg to Basel from July 2027. According to https://news.sbb.ch/de/019e9720-8be...est-neue-verbindung-basel-strassburg-bruessel (in German), there will be a good connection to London at Lille UK-bound, but none in the other direction.

2. Provided the ETR410 get approved in time, there will be a daily Frecciarossa train pair between Rome and Munich as well as Milan and Munich, run by TI in cooperation with ÖBB and DB (https://www.deutschebahn.com/de/pre...und-Rom-mit-neuen-Direktverbindungen-13378658).

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According to the Czech timetable draft (https://www.spravazeleznic.cz/cestujici/jizdni-rad/navrh-jizdniho-radu-na-rok-2027), there will be an additional Wien - Warszawa EC, closing the remaining Takt gap.

And an additional RJ Wien - Berlin.

The NJ Berlin - Graz will no longer reach Graz, but end at Wien Westbhf.

Obviously, all still at the draft stage.

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Austriantrain · 12 Jul 2026

The Slovak timetable draft is available:

https://idsvychod.sk/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/KCP_ramcovy-navrh_2026-2027.zip

Again, like this year, EC Kosice - Vienna are proposed. Let’s see if they happen. Also several Leo Express paths, probably even less „secure“.

The rjx Bratislava - Zurich is now also planned to run via Marchegg instead of Kittsee.

NCT · 12 Jul 2026

Good that the Vienna - Poland takt gap is being filled. If implemented it means the state operators get there before Regiojet afterall.

The draft ZSSK timetables have the Tatrans significantly accelerated. The Zilina - Kosice paths remain unchanged but services depart Bratislava almost 30 minutes later. Suspect this marks the final benefit realisation of the Bratislava - Zilina modernisation?

According to sources the final step of testing and commissioning of ETCS level 2 on the Central Railway Line (CMK) is scheduled for next month. Will the 2027 timetable finally feature 250km/h running of the Pendolino sets?

8ace · Thursday at 08:20

Does anyone know when the new DB timetable is published? Looking at travelling in mid-January but nothing is available after the beginning of December.

rvdborgt · Thursday at 09:21

On 14 October, according to NS.

8ace · Thursday at 13:27

Thanks. Odd that it’s another country’s website that has the info!

in_luzern · Thursday at 16:33

Austriantrain said:
SNCF, SNCB and SBB have announced that they will run a trial weekend Brussels - Strasbourg - Basel TGV service by extending one train pair a day from Strasbourg to Basel from July 2027. According to https://news.sbb.ch/de/019e9720-8be...est-neue-verbindung-basel-strassburg-bruessel (in German), there will be a good connection to London at Lille UK-bound, but none in the other direction.

It's a pity that the southbound train leaves Brussels so early (7:00)... difficult to access unless you are actually in central Brussels. I travel between Basel and Belgium (Ottignies / Louvain-la-Neuve) a lot, but realistically I won't be able to make use of this.

Gordon · 2026-09-11T00:38:30+0100

This is a typical example of 'high speed routes at all costs' strategy which SNCF - in particular - favours.

The timings are given as 'about 0700' from Brussels and '12.30' arrival into Basel. Despite being LGV high speed lines, the route is of course circuitous, so the journey time will be no improvement over the TEE Iris 51 years ago...

In my August 1975 Cooks, the Iris departed Bruxelles Midi at 07.01 and arrived at Basel SBB at 12.51

As far as the 'one way only' London connection from Basel is concerned, to be useful train services offering such connections need to be twice a day, as the 1975 Cooks also shows, namely there were two TEE per day each way on the Brussels - Basel route , the Edelweiss and Iris one morning from each end and one afternoon from each end

in_luzern · 2026-09-11T07:30:50+0100

Gordon said:
This is a typical example of 'high speed routes at all costs' strategy which SNCF - in particular - favours.

The timings are given as 'about 0700' from Brussels and '12.30' arrival into Basel. Despite being LGV high speed lines, the route is of course circuitous, so the journey time will be no improvement over the TEE Iris 51 years ago...

Very true.

I can leave Ottignies at 8:18 and be in Basel at 14:50, going via Luxembourg and Mulhouse (which is what I usually do). And with a combination of Train+ and senior discounts, I can do the return trip for less than 100 €, which I doubt will be the case using the new TGV.

Austriantrain · 2026-09-11T11:13:28+0100

Gordon said:
This is a typical example of 'high speed routes at all costs' strategy which SNCF - in particular - favours.

I don't think that is really the problem here. Brussels - Lille - CDG - Strasbourg - Basel makes perfekt sense. It is just that SNCF is unwilling to offer more than token "interregional" TGV services (and the French state is not willing to pay for more). Otherwise, you would likely have more and better spread-out departures during the day.

Gordon · 2026-09-11T12:00:36+0100

Perhaps there would be a market for a 'Ouigo Classic' loco hauled train via the old route (a reinvention of the EC Iris) but probably a non starter as it would need Belgian and SNCF locos I suppose. Basel end would not be a problem as Basel SNCF is wholly 'SNCF' territory

AdamWW · 2026-09-11T12:13:43+0100

Gordon said:
Perhaps there would be a market for a 'Ouigo Classic' loco hauled train via the old route (a reinvention of the EC Iris) but probably a non starter as it would need Belgian and SNCF locos I suppose. Basel end would not be a problem as Basel SNCF is wholly 'SNCF' territory

The Brussels to Paris Ouigo Classic appears to run with a Belgian locomotive (and coaching stock).

Gordon · 2026-09-11T13:08:39+0100

AdamWW said:
The Brussels to Paris Ouigo Classic appears to run with a Belgian locomotive (and coaching stock).

OK problem solved! I see it's a SNCF class 18. I'm fairly certain that these meet the criteria required to reach Basel SNCF

NCT · 2026-09-11T13:23:45+0100

This is really a Brussels - Lille - CDG and a Lille - CDG - Basel service stitched together. Brussels - Basel is marketing spiel.

The 'standard' routing for a Brussels - Basel journey still ought to be via Luxembourg. Brussels - Luxembourg is clockface and is due for modest speed improvements. Once all the Luxembourg - Metz upgrades are complete hopefully there'll be reasonably regular Luxembourg - Basel TGV services.

Gordon · 2026-09-11T14:16:36+0100

NCT said:
This is really a Brussels - Lille - CDG and a Lille - CDG - Basel service stitched together. Brussels - Basel is marketing spiel.

The 'standard' routing for a Brussels - Basel journey still ought to be via Luxembourg. Brussels - Luxembourg is clockface and is due for modest speed improvements. Once all the Luxembourg - Metz upgrades are complete hopefully there'll be reasonably regular Luxembourg - Basel TGV services.

Lack of earlier 'outside the box' thinking for LGV Est means that a Metz - Strasbourg service can not take advantage of the LGV Est, as neither of the junctions south of Metz allows a North to East TGV

NCT · 2026-09-11T14:44:49+0100

Gordon said:
Lack of earlier 'outside the box' thinking for LGV Est means that a Metz - Strasbourg service can not take advantage of the LGV Est, as neither of the junctions south of Metz allows a North to East TGV

Eh? Metz - Strasbourg accesses LGV Est at a junction marked 'Lucy' on Openrailwaymaps, east of Remilly.

MarcVD · 2026-09-11T22:59:38+0100

Gordon said:
Perhaps there would be a market for a 'Ouigo Classic' loco hauled train via the old route (a reinvention of the EC Iris) but probably a non starter as it would need Belgian and SNCF locos I suppose. Basel end would not be a problem as Basel SNCF is wholly 'SNCF' territory

Basel SNCF will be gone in a few years when SBB starts remodeling the station. The 25 kV stub tracks will disappear, the limit between 15 and 25 kV will be pushed further north, and you will need a 15 kV capable loco to enter the station.

But in a year or two, SNCB will have their new HLE17 loco which is quadricourant. Problem is, it is not foreseen to qualify it for France...

43096 · 2026-09-11T23:06:09+0100

Gordon said:
OK problem solved! I see it's a SNCF class 18. I'm fairly certain that these meet the criteria required to reach Basel SNCF

Think you mean SNCB Class 18! There's no 1.5kV DC electrification in France between Belgium and Strasbourg/Basel - SNCF's AC-only BB15000 used to haul the Iris and Vauban ECs between Luxembourg and Basel.

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