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Liverpool City Region-Bus Franchising

Northerngirl

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Will there be that many arguments?

The drivers/operators won't be bothered as they have no revenue exposure. It'll just be if revenue protection get on and you'd hope there are more important areas for them to focus on
Maybe im just unlucky, but ive had a couple of grumpy drivers on the 310
 
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geoffk

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But this is probably only likely if Halton- and, more importantly, their depot in Halton - stays outside of the franchising scheme.
Apols if I've missed something, but why would Halton, which is part of the LCR, stay outside the franchising scheme? Related to that, why replace the well-known Merseytravel brand with the meaningless "Metro"? I have relatives on the 82/82A route at Cressington who might be bending my ear as someone who knows about buses!
 

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Apols if I've missed something, but why would Halton, which is part of the LCR, stay outside the franchising scheme? Related to that, why replace the well-known Merseytravel brand with the meaningless "Metro"? I have relatives on the 82/82A route at Cressington who might be bending my ear as someone who knows about buses!

Because Halton don't contribute any funding to Merseytravel, why they are staying outside franchising, it's why Merseytravel products are not valid in the Halton area either, even though Halton is in LCR.
 

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Because Halton don't contribute any funding to Merseytravel, why they are staying outside franchising, it's why Merseytravel products are not valid in the Halton area either, even though Halton is in LCR.
Thanks. I didn't know that. So effectively it's just a Merseyside scheme. The timetable suggests 82A is run from the Runcorn end so it will remain commercial, but 82 will be franchised. I hope the ticketing can be sorted out.
 

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Because Halton don't contribute any funding to Merseytravel, why they are staying outside franchising, it's why Merseytravel products are not valid in the Halton area either, even though Halton is in LCR.

... except the 'MyTicket' product for 5-18 year olds, which is valid in Halton.

Link here.


MyTicket​

The one-day bus ticket for young people (aged 5 - 18) which can be used on any bus in Merseyside and Halton. Hop on and off as often as you want.

Where can I use it?
MyTicket is a bus ticket for young people aged 18 and under. You can use MyTicket on any participating bus operator’s services within Merseyside and Halton.
 

Djgr

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Apols if I've missed something, but why would Halton, which is part of the LCR, stay outside the franchising scheme? Related to that, why replace the well-known Merseytravel brand with the meaningless "Metro"? I have relatives on the 82/82A route at Cressington who might be bending my ear as someone who knows about buses!
One reason is that people get in a complete muddle in the difference between Merseyrail and Merseytravel.
 

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If a route I'm using goes into Cheshire or Lancashire such as the x1 or x2 or 7 to give a few examples, into areas which don't have all operator smart cards, I use my metro card to get to my destination and pay on my return trip or if the driver tells me to pay.
I'm not entirely sure it's particularly wise to admit to and justify your fare evasion in this way. Just because you did it, and a driver didn't pull you up about it, it doesn't make it right. What you did was no different at all to short faring on the railways and defrauding the railway is very much looked down upon. With buses under franchising, they still need to cover the cost of operations through farebox or subsidy, and every penny not met from the farebox, will come in the form of higher taxation or reduced services.
With that in mind, I find it baffling how you are so happy to almost boast about your fare evasion......
 

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Because Halton don't contribute any funding to Merseytravel, why they are staying outside franchising, it's why Merseytravel products are not valid in the Halton area either, even though Halton is in LCR.
Merseytravel have been in ongoing discussions with Halton Borough Council to compensate them for taking over responsibility for the borough's transport needs for a few years now - a major issue is the travel pass that the rest of the LCR get at 60 - this currently doesn't apply to Halton, and the financial burden this would create for resident through a precept on their Council Tax is something Halton Council is resisting to adhere to. However, all the borough's bus stops are in Merseytravel's corporate style
 

Djgr

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Merseytravel have been in ongoing discussions with Halton Borough Council to compensate them for taking over responsibility for the borough's transport needs for a few years now - a major issue is the travel pass that the rest of the LCR get at 60 - this currently doesn't apply to Halton, and the financial burden this would create for resident through a precept on their Council Tax is something Halton Council is resisting to adhere to. However, all the borough's bus stops are in Merseytravel's corporate style
No pain, no gain!
 

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