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Lewes derailment - Thursday 13th August

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went through Coulsdon south with another engine on the rear
 

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Network Rail Suusex have a new Twitter video up. They are planning on finishing earthworks Thursday than have 500m of track to replace and railways systems to reinstate.

Also in the video is a view of coach 7 being lifted which shows remarkable little damage on the side that was against the embankment.

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Is there any chance the line will be opening earlier than had been expected? I note that journey planners are showing trains running normally on Saturday.
 

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Is there any chance the line will be opening earlier than had been expected? I note that journey planners are showing trains running normally on Saturday.
The Southern journey planner was saying that beyond a few days ahead, the timetabling might not be correct - so until an announcement about reopening I wouldn't necessarily trust the planner
 

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The freight that has been stuck down at Newhaven Marine is being recovered tonight, running via Polegate and Hastings. Bet it is a while since a non p-way freight has been along there.

Light engine move is in daylight too


Why does it need an engine to rescue it - is it because it's not possible to run around in Lewes?
 

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Why does it need an engine to rescue it - is it because it's not possible to run around in Lewes?
The freight is almost certainly too long to run round in P4/5 at Lewes (it's only 6 or 7 cars long), and Platform 1 at Eastbourne (12 cars). It's also presumably too long to fit behind the signal at Brighton (platforms are 12car), hence running via Hastings (so reversing at Hampden Park).
 

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The freight that has been stuck down at Newhaven Marine is being recovered tonight, running via Polegate and Hastings. Bet it is a while since a non p-way freight has been along there.

Light engine move is in daylight too



Not booked but I captured this a while back.
Same principal except this only had 1 66. It ran around at Hampden park, left it's wagons there, down to Eastbourne, back up over the crossover .


And for info, there's a gbrf booked tomorrow morning as well to day aggs.
 

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Further update from NR Sussex and embankment nearly complete with even the replacement troughing route in place. Over to track renewals tomorrow to reinstate the track and railway systems. Can't see them opening earlier but with the rate of progress being made but I still believe they could.

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The freight that has been stuck down at Newhaven Marine is being recovered tonight, running via Polegate and Hastings. Bet it is a while since a non p-way freight has been along there.

Light engine move is in daylight too


According to reports on se-gen, it only got as far as Southease before failing - and has had to be dragged back to Newhaven Marine.
 

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NR Sussex&Kent twitter account has uploaded a video showing the track renewal works in progress

Part the way through the video is shot of the embankment showing the ballast restraint measures that existed just off the overbridge where the track distortion ocurred according to the picture shown in the RAIB update the week before last. The embankment remediation works that have taken place will presumably alleviated the problems that has probably been ocurring with ballast loss in this area.

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For the first time in several weeks, this morning the signal berths between Lewes and Haywards Heath are completely clear, and the messages of -T3- and also 1F34 which remained there until yesterday have now dissapeared.
 

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A VSTP Train ID 5Z01 is in the system; this is almost certainly the test train

I can never work out how to find VSTPs on RTT, so no link I'm afraid (I found the train through Railcam UK data).
 

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Here's what the site looks like this afternoon. This is a photo of the site from an elevated position. There is not much happening on the site.
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Here's what the site looks like this afternoon.
Interesting to see that the embankment has been built up on the up side, when the derailment happened on the down side. I guess that might be due to the effects of using the Kirov cranes rather than the derailment itself.
 

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Interesting to see that the embankment has been built up on the up side, when the derailment happened on the down side. I guess that might be due to the effects of using the Kirov cranes rather than the derailment itself.
I would guess that there would be a concern that only rebuilding half the embankment would lead to a risk of there being effectively a fault line in the middle and a situation similar to Hook could occur.

Here's what the site looks like this afternoon.
A nice angle over the river, with Malling Down in the backdrop (although the village I grew up in is hidden behind the hill). The Lewes-Uckfield formation is across the middle distance somewhere (I think it's the 2nd bank of trees running horizontal, nearer the houses, but not 100% sure from this angle).
 

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Interesting to see that the embankment has been built up on the up side, when the derailment happened on the down side. I guess that might be due to the effects of using the Kirov cranes rather than the derailment itself.
I think the "rebuilt" bit on the upside is the area where they seemed to have dumped a load of aggregate to make a sort of access ramp during the works. You can see that it doesn't extend all the way to the overbridge (to the left in this view) where the suspected rail buckle ocurred. I think on the other (down) side the embankment has been rebuilt up as far as the bridge but I might be wrong.

It also looked to me from previously posted images that the core of the embankment hasn't been rebuilt at all - all the works have been to its sloping faces.

Would be quite interesting to understand all the engineering decisions in this kind of situation. I had sort of expected that they might just remove the entire section of embankment (given the various comments about how these were built with quite inappropriate materials in the 1800s) and rebuild the whole thing from scratch to be safe. Of course that would make it a much bigger job in terms of materials, and maybe you create new problems at the interface of old/new embankment sections.

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A nice angle over the river, with Malling Down in the backdrop (although the village I grew up in is hidden behind the hill). The Lewes-Uckfield formation is across the middle distance somewhere (I think it's the 2nd bank of trees running horizontal, nearer the houses, but not 100% sure from this angle).
This is from just above the biggest of the chalk pits on that side of the river, which you can walk to quite easily from the top of the Neville Estate & Landport Bottom.
 

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I think on the other (down) side the embankment has been rebuilt up as far as the bridge but I might be wrong.
It will, in due course, be interesting to see what's happened there and is, possibly, still happening as some earth-moving type equipment can be seen on the down side in your photo.
 

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It will, in due course, be interesting to see what's happened there and is, possibly, still happening as some earth-moving type equipment can be seen on the down side in your photo.
I think it must be near enough finished - none of that machinery seemed to be doing anything when I took the photo - in fact there was hardly any activity obvious anywhere on site.
 

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