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For anyone reading this later frantically - it's stop H. If you stand in the middle of the interchange building and face towards the tram stop, it's in the far left corner of the building, immediately next to the exit to Shudehill (the street).
Yes, the problem is that the first time you use it you don’t know this, as I didn’t, but now I do. Not the end of the world.
I agree.
That's because nobody could find the stand to get on it
It is very existent. You do not need 2 million apps to cross reference information
I promise you the current political state of the country has nothing to do with why a free bus is on diversion. Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess
The main issue at both stations in the city centre is the over-ranking of the taxi ranks at the station and the desire by private hire vehicles to stop and alight passengers wherever they want.
This was due to a knockdown outside the printworks meaning buses could not use shudehill and Corporation street like they normally do.
As a resident of Scotland returning from a holiday in Wales, why am I expected to have to have found the TfGM website or Bee Network app downloaded for one (1) intra-city transfer? In Edinburgh, where buses seemingly actually follow the law, a diversion is announced either automatically before the stop immediately before the diversion, or by the driver at the stop before the diversion.
My point is more that even when a law is enacted, it is often just ignored and those who are meant to be protected by said legislation can find themselves having effective no recourse to recouping any financial loss gained. It is certainly not just a British problem, but we are quite bad for it.
Let's not forget it's only 15-20 minutes walk with tram and train alternatives
We were dropped off at Shudehill Interchange so I'm not sure this is accurate.
Sure, for an able-bodied individual not carrying much. I quite wished I was such an individual at the time!
...with tram and train alternatives.
Yes but the road outside the bus station is also called Shudehill. Normally the Freebus turns right out of the bus station, goes down to the bottom of ‘shudehill/Whithy Grove, onto Corporation street, however I believe buses diverted using miller street for several hours.
It is advertised as such on the buses.
If we ignore the Bee Network app, I really don’t think that going to the website of the transport operator in the city you are transferring in is as much of an inconvenience as you are making it out to be.
But it is not JUST there to do that. Many people using the bus will not be making that journey.
Agreed, I don't use it very often but I never use it for Piccadilly-Victoria journeys. Last week I was using it to get back from the Arndale Centre to Piccadilly, for example, because my left leg has been troubling me for a while.
No they are both hop on hop off services. But the shelter at Piccadilly approach does advertise the fact it’s a direct bus link to Victoria station, for those that require it.
The Glasgow service essentially goes from one station to another by the quickest route. The Manchester service goes "all around the houses". This reflects their different focus.
Both are buses which facilitate free transfer for rail passengers between two stations on opposite sides of the city centre. I fail to see how it should be perceived seperately, just because one takes longer and has additional function.
One is almost exclusively to transport passengers from one station to another.
Mainly down to the financing of the services. It’s paid for primarily by some of the big city centre retailers such as Selfridges and M&S.
TFGMs disruption data is also linked into the Bus Open Data Disruption service so it feeds out to other journey planners (see screenshots below from Citymapper and bustimes.org). Timetable data has also been updated on TFGMs website and all of it's open data and Traveline entries, and also Bus Open Data, so any journey planner which is using transport data created within the past few months, has been updated to reflect all of this.
That's all well and good if you use such a service. Not very useful to someone following signage. On that point... I find it odd how you seemingly can't think of putting a poster up in a bus stop!
We've already established in post #11 that the bus you were on was diverted further away than normal because of an accident.
That’s TFGM’s remit, I’d imagine signs were up at shudehill interchange and Piccadilly approach but bus stops is a bit of an issue as nobody has a crystal ball to say when the normal route will be back in operation.
