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London Overground Unbelievable amount of cancellations

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whoosh

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Open maybe but have a look at a Reddit sub for any big supermarket and you'll find they're probably far from fully staffed and very reliant on overtime. The big difference is that if you're running a shop, hospital etc that should have 30 people on shift then they'll muddle through with 15. If you need 30 train drivers and have 15 then that's 15 trains cancelled.
It can be worse than that.
I’ve got to be honest, I’m always astounded that people don’t recognise this. Not to mention that with the complexities of Traincrew diagrams, there’s a good chance that even more trains would be cancelled as Drivers drive multiple trains on different ‘legs’ throughout their working day and the train with no Driver available to work itwould need to be stabled somewhere suitable.
Exactly this.


A few years ago I was taken ill not long before being due to start work.
Result: My out and back trains were cancelled, along with the return journey that my outward stock would've made, and the outward journey of the stock I should've brought back.

Four cancelled trains when I should've only been driving two.

That was quite a straightforward diagram with only two legs.

Luckily I am rarely off sick!
 

Horizon22

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FirstGroup bringing their special magic touch to the Overground?

No way they'd have been able to make any dent in operational procedures in a month. If anything, Arriva on their way out might have taken their eye off the ball with regards to recruitment...
 

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This week’s Mildmay cancellations begin due to ‘more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time’. I suppose this may also have been the case last week too but the shortage of drivers last week might have outweighed the shortage of trains.

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Update - This afternoon’s issues are due to damage to the overhead wires. This is one unlucky line.
 
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boiledbeans2

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This week’s Mildmay cancellations begin due to ‘more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time’. I suppose this may also have been the case last week too but the shortage of drivers last week might have outweighed the shortage of trains.
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I notice quite a few 378s on the Watford DC line though over the past few days (2 or 3 per day). Perhaps Mildmay's 378 are being used on the Watford DC?
 

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I notice quite a few 378s on the Watford DC line though over the past few days (2 or 3 per day). Perhaps Mildmay's 378 are being used on the Watford DC?
Interestingly Mildmay often seems to have 2 or 3 710 diagrams too.

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Another excellent afternoon. Screenshot taken at 1737.

Stated reason - earlier broken down train.

I’m assuming the relevant exec team are trying to resolve this seemingly daily issue of one thing or another.

Embarrassing for TfL.

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Mildmay Line has been like this for ages, not sure why this is coming up now. This is an everyday occurence in North London.
 

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Mildmay Line has been like this for ages, not sure why this is coming up now. This is an everyday occurence in North London.
Because there’s been a whole week of problems with nothing to do with the infrastructure, so naturally it’s in the spotlight.

It was awful in 2024ish but seemed to have settled down recently until this.
 

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Mildmay Line has been like this for ages, not sure why this is coming up now. This is an everyday occurence in North London.
I use it frequently and in fairness most problems have been out of the operator's control as they tend to be related to freight or infrastructure failures. This is different, I can't remember crew shortages like this ever occurring before even pre Overground.
 

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The Underground operates without overtime for drivers and seem to avoid most of these problems.

Last night, of 21 Mildmay services scheduled to depart Stratford after 9pm, only 7 ran. Were there any other reasons for disruption, or do they really only have enough drivers to cover 1/3 of the evening service?

It really doesn't, it's just slightly better hidden because there's no public timetable and no interaction with freight so it's easier to manipulate the service on the fly.
I have never seen only 33% of trains running on the underground due to lack of staff.
 

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Everything on Clapham-Willesden part cancelled, not helping as well when the Southern is also out of action the latter leaving the repairs to the points failure to be done overnight..
 

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Just as bad today, 5 consecutive Westbound trains are cancelled, leaving a 45-minute gap from Stratford from 1321 to 1406, not bad for a service that should run every 7-8 mins.
 

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Hopefully the 14:06 wasn't a 4 car which they have been pulling recently whilst the 5 cars carry fresh air on the dc.
 

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This seems to be continuing. Looks like about 80% of Mildmay line trains are cancelled today due to "shortage of staff". Looks to have spiralled since First took over. Coincidence? TfL mismanagement? Having built up a strong ridership and image it seems the Overground is now unfit.
 

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