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Tyne & Wear Metro .. Most Run-down Station

Tetchytyke

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There was always a queue at the Haymarket shop
There was, because you could only buy season tickets at a Nexus travel shop.

Now you can buy them online and the need for the travel shop has largely gone. I don't miss the days of having to queue up once a month to get a season ticket.
 
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Wallsend, Jarrow, Hebburn and Felling are the worst stations imo.

I know others are mentioning other stations but they're mostly suburban stations in housing estates. These 4 are stations serving towns where people might want to actually go to and they're all extremely basic and haven't had a penny spent on them bar a lick of paint since opening.

They should be a gateway to the town, not some some outdated 1980's dark and unpleasant waiting area which makes it feel unsafe for women. All 4 badly need the same treatment the original poor DLR stations got imo.

ie. https://www.google.com/maps/place/J...try=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDgwOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw== - That's the entrance to Jarrow from the town centre, 'lovely'.
 

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Hard to say, as many stations were built VERY basic AND in deprived areas so the extremely basic nature of them is built in; my initial response was going to be Felling, but it is meant to be how it is….
The footbridge at Felling is so rusty (and me being on the heavy side) that I wonder it can hold my weight!
 

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Wallsend, Jarrow, Hebburn and Felling are the worst stations imo.

I know others are mentioning other stations but they're mostly suburban stations in housing estates. These 4 are stations serving towns where people might want to actually go to and they're all extremely basic and haven't had a penny spent on them bar a lick of paint since opening.

They should be a gateway to the town, not some some outdated 1980's dark and unpleasant waiting area which makes it feel unsafe for women. All 4 badly need the same treatment the original poor DLR stations got imo.

ie. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Jarrow+Metro+station/@54.9797619,-1.4922776,3a,41.6y,221.67h,91.78t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sGfM11LlY9nsJzMUrw-P3tQ!2e0!6shttps://streetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com/v1/thumbnail?cb_client=maps_sv.tactile&w=900&h=600&pitch=-1.7781976645946287&panoid=GfM11LlY9nsJzMUrw-P3tQ&yaw=221.6705760660178!7i16384!8i8192!4m6!3m5!1s0x487e6fc380924b6f:0xb4c6cb7bf70e8943!8m2!3d54.9795!4d-1.4936801!16zL20vMGZ6ZjIw?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDgwOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw== - That's the entrance to Jarrow from the town centre, 'lovely'.

I mean - as a former user of Hebburn not sure what's wrong with it, same with Jarrow. It has cover, ticket machines and seats for the 5 minutes I tend to be waiting for...


Certainly more inviting and more cover than the recentley built Northumberland Line Stations for example.


(Also that photo of Jarrow isn't the main entrance...you've got to traverse the bridge to get to that side)
 

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I mean - as a former user of Hebburn not sure what's wrong with it, same with Jarrow. It has cover, ticket machines and seats for the 5 minutes I tend to be waiting for...

Certainly more inviting and more cover than the recentley built Northumberland Line Stations for example.

(Also that photo of Jarrow isn't the main entrance...you've got to traverse the bridge to get to that side)

Just think they should be a welcome to the towns they serve than what they are but they all have way too many blind spots which make it pretty unpleasant if you don't know what the area is like. Like picking out Hebburn that long enclosed dark tunnel down towards the South Shields platform is very grim imo. Get it opened up and get some light in there.

The Northumberland Line stations have been heavily criticised for how basic they are, in fairness, but that's for another thread really but there's no blind spots to be fair.
 

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Just think they should be a welcome to the towns they serve than what they are but they all have way too many blind spots which make it pretty unpleasant if you don't know what the area is like. Like picking out Hebburn that long enclosed dark tunnel down towards the South Shields platform is very grim imo. Get it opened up and get some light in there.

The Northumberland Line stations have been heavily criticised for how basic they are, in fairness, but that's for another thread really but there's no blind spots to be fair.
I'd rather they were open and basic than just being a pipe dream with fabulous facilities
 

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There was, because you could only buy season tickets at a Nexus travel shop.

Now you can buy them online and the need for the travel shop has largely gone. I don't miss the days of having to queue up once a month to get a season ticket.
People made redundant and sole less lack of human contact, what a wonderful world!
 

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People made redundant and sole less lack of human contact, what a wonderful world!
They weren’t made redundant.

But yes, it is wonderful. I can buy my season ticket at home in seconds rather than having to schlep up to Haymarket and spend my lunch hour standing in a queue. It was a right pain in the backside.

Same how it’s so much nicer I can buy a monthly or annual Stagecoach Megarider online rather than having to queue up in that newsagents on Northumberland Street and wait for the one person who could remember how to use the machine.
 

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But yes, it is wonderful. I can buy my season ticket at home in seconds rather than having to schlep up to Haymarket and spend my lunch hour standing in a queue. It was a right pain in the backside
Yeah, the old system was a nuisance if you worked during the day. I think I only queued at the travel shop once before realising I could get my NR season ticket to Metro City Centre rather than just Newcastle. Then latterly it became easier to buy period tickets on Pop card from ticket machines
 

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They weren’t made redundant.

But yes, it is wonderful. I can buy my season ticket at home in seconds rather than having to schlep up to Haymarket and spend my lunch hour standing in a queue. It was a right pain in the backside.

Same how it’s so much nicer I can buy a monthly or annual Stagecoach Megarider online rather than having to queue up in that newsagents on Northumberland Street and wait for the one person who could remember how to use the machine.
What an ideal opportunity lost for (young) people to learn customer care.

its been a bonus for me. Someone else I don’t ned to talk to. it’s also given me the opportunity to spend longer on the platforms enjoying the gaps in service and trying to find somewhere to park the car at the Stations. It also means that I can spend more time with my Nan and her neighbours helping them get their passes on line! Bless! You didn’t get tea and custard creams in the Nexus shops.
 

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The wayfinding signs are clear enough: "coast via Wallsend" and "coast via South Gosforth." From the entrance hall its one escalator for one set of platforms and one escalator for the other, and at platform level there's a staircase between the two.

Someone who can't follow those signs probably shouldn't be out unsupervised on a public transport network.

The only issue I have with Monument (and it's not restricted to Monument, Central Station is just as bad) is how much of a pain in the backside the step-free access is. It's one lift from street level to the entrance hall and then another one to platform level. One lift serving both sets of platforms really isn't sufficient anymore either, but changing that will cost mega money.
If the wayfinding were good, people wouldn't be asking quite as much as they do, this much is hard to deny design-wise. I've travelled to many networks over the years and still I feel if I was new to Newcastle, Monument would confuse me and it did as a kid. Friends of mine from other regions have outright said things like"wow there's a lot of signs here, what is Heworth?". It's also important to note that not all travellers will be accessing the concourse which equally could have larger and clearer signs - some will be using Monument purely to interchange lines.

The signage just is not very visible or contrasting, it all blends together and it's overly wordy with very little in the way of typographical hierarchy. Finding the way out can be hard because the Exit signs are not highlighted differently from any other exit signs. TfL for example, highlight the Way Out in black.

Nexus don't acknowledge the green line as... A green line so there's no simple or visual way for the signage to say "go downstairs for green line" other than "trains to heworth and south hylton". People are less likely to know the exact termini of each line and cross-referencing it with the map isn't necessarily easy to do given we have 60 stations which is why I think Monument's wayfinding system is flawed.

Why can't the station refer to platform 3 and 4 as east and west from monument and 1 and 2 as north and south through the signage? I would say people generally know what direction they're looking to go in and if not, the clearest signage Monument has is the platform-based line maps - these are helpful when identifying your platform and are effective in other regions such as London too.

My two cents as a graphic designer is it's not a fair assumption to argue that everyone is incompetent, "who cares, if you can't read it, you shouldn't travel unsupervised" without assessing the signage as a potential issue.
 
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Tetchytyke

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Finding the way out can be hard because the Exit signs are not highlighted differently from any other exit signs. TfL for example, highlight the Way Out in black.
The exit signs by the exits are green.

Why can't the station refer to platform 3 and 4 as east and west from monument and 1 and 2 as north and south through the signage?
Is that any better? Genuine question. There are countless examples in London where the lines are labelled as southbound and northbound when they are not, or labelled eastbound and westbound when they are not. Is that more or less confusing? If you're going from Kings Cross to Finsbury Park on the Piccadilly Line you take an eastbound train but on the Victoria Line you take a northbound train. Both go in the same direction.

I used to live near Shiremoor. Is that north or east? What about the airport, is that north or west? Because of the geography of the area, with the Tyne generally flowing north-east, South Shields is actually quite a bit further north than Monument. How pedantic are we being?

I don't and didn't see many people standing around at Monument looking confused, to be honest, although it is the thick end of a decade since I left Newcastle. The main confusion always seemed to be with those heading towards the coast and not knowing whether they needed to go via South Gosforth or via Wallsend, with the bonus of the old trains having the destination showing as 'St James via The Coast' at Monument when heading via South Gosforth. I'm not sure that changing the signage to northbound and eastbound would make that any clearer- the whole of the Coast Circle is both north and east of Monument.
 

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The exit signs by the exits are green.


Is that any better? Genuine question. There are countless examples in London where the lines are labelled as southbound and northbound when they are not, or labelled eastbound and westbound when they are not. Is that more or less confusing? If you're going from Kings Cross to Finsbury Park on the Piccadilly Line you take an eastbound train but on the Victoria Line you take a northbound train. Both go in the same direction.

I used to live near Shiremoor. Is that north or east? What about the airport, is that north or west? Because of the geography of the area, with the Tyne generally flowing north-east, South Shields is actually quite a bit further north than Monument. How pedantic are we being?

I don't and didn't see many people standing around at Monument looking confused, to be honest, although it is the thick end of a decade since I left Newcastle. The main confusion always seemed to be with those heading towards the coast and not knowing whether they needed to go via South Gosforth or via Wallsend, with the bonus of the old trains having the destination showing as 'St James via The Coast' at Monument when heading via South Gosforth. I'm not sure that changing the signage to northbound and eastbound would make that any clearer- the whole of the Coast Circle is both north and east of Monument.

There’s definitely a lot of scope for non-locals not to understand things, especially with the way St James services call at Monument twice.

All in all I think they make the best of a bad job.
 

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There’s definitely a lot of scope for non-locals not to understand things, especially with the way St James services call at Monument twice.
Yeah, the network is inherently a bit confusing because of the way the Coast Loop has to operate. Whatever signage you put up is going to make sense to some people and not to others.

I just wish they'd put a departure board in the main concourse so that you can see the next trains and decide which way round the loop to go.
 

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