JasonL
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Would it be to do with the new 612 route that is starting soon?
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mattyharding
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I can see Oldham having the 50 BYD E400 EVs, 60 E400 EVs, 64 Streetdeck Electroliners and 16 GB Kites
mattyharding
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Has any of the Stagecoach Electroliners for Oldham arrived in the UK yet as I heard someone say last week that they were to enter service in August
gka472l
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Presume if that happens, the E400EV's would get their originally intended Stagecoach numbers??? 80122-80145
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Not seen any reports of any through Birkenhead Ferry terminal as of yet, as someone on one of the FB groups does catch most stuff coming through....
mattyharding
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I would imagine so as they still have the gap for them so everything is pointing towards them moving to Oldham probably to replace the 24 plate MMCs
MCRTransitYT
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Seemingly, Wrightbus have been completing the Merseyside orders first for Stagecoach and Go North West Merseyside, but I imagine once they have finished, Oldham's first batch of 55 StreetDecks will start to arrive
mattyharding
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I also think the Oldham 24 plate MMCs will go to Stockport to replace the E400 Hybrids
gka472l
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The first of the Manchester ones, 82451, was pictured at least a couple of months back on test so I suspect a fair few will be ready for delivery
JasonL
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Probably will be delivered when all of Liverpool's ones are delivered.
mattyharding
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It could be either late August or early September when they arrive into service
Leyland Bus
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It's fair to say, they'll be here when they're here...
mattyharding
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13163 and 13170 are both officially withdrawn and have been returned to TFGM with their future now unknown
Leyland Bus
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They will likely be sold on if they aren't shoehorned in anywhere else.
MCRTransitYT
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Unless they've got unrepairable damage, TFGM will probably sell them via Ensign. Similarly with the Scanias and Volvo B9TL Geminis, TFGM probably want the most money out of them as they can get. I'm sure that they'll have good use somewhere else however, and that goes for both batches of B5LH Gemini 2s at Stagecoach.
47550
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My understanding is that most of the Tranche 1 Small Franchises (operated by Diamond Bus) are due to expire in March 2027. Presumably the procurement process is well underway by now. Does anyone have any idea when an announcement will be made on who will operate them ? Seems only 2 minutes since they started !
mattyharding
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13163 probably won't see passenger service again as it's not been in service for almost a year, but for 13170 I'm not so sure
mayneway
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Can you stop assuming it will be scrapped and won’t see passenger use again etc - it’s getting slightly boring.
TFGM have probably decided it’s not cost effective to repair whatever is wrong with them, but for the right price I’m sure there’s plenty of operators out there who would snap them up, convert to diesel and the issues are sorted - winner winner!
I know for a fact some of the Scanias’s and B9’s were not in a good way yet have been sold on and not scrapped.
There’s a healthy market for these B5’s and I’d bet money they DO see passenger service again in the future!
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Pretty sure it’s 5 years with the option to extend by a further 2 years if both TFGM and the operator are happy and performance targets are being met. Given the cost element TFGM have met, and are still dealing with im pretty sure they will want contracts to roll on.
Leyland Bus
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The large contracts are 5 plus 2 as you say but the smaller ones were 3 years. They should be up this year but have been extended by six months.
It also mentions in the same document that T1 schools have a 1 year extension option and this will be exercised.
According to bustimes: 13163 was last used 31 Aug 2025 and 13170 last used 16 Mar 2026 (or their associated ticket machines!)
https://bustimes.org/operators/bee-network-bnsm/vehicles
MCRTransitYT
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Go North West route 612 has been registered, ready for launch on 6th September.
Just a reminder, this is the fleet discussion thread. Anything route/service related there is an existing thread for 
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Bee Network Service/Route Discussion
I am wondering if anyone knows more about the 356's diversion away from High Grove Road in Grasscroft? It keeps being referred to as an "operational issue" which is unusual wording. It has been affected by roadworks but not all the time it has been diverted, but there is no activity at present...
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Cavendish1
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84252 has arrived at the docks, picture posted yesterday.
My picture of 82452 seen at the Stena Line Terminal on the Wirral, 20/7/2026
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mayneway
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It arrived at Oldham on Wednesday (22/7) and is apparently being used for driver vehicle familiarisation.
mattyharding
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I will attempt to spot it whilst out and about and get a photo of it
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82454 has also arrived at Oldham
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82454 has it's 26 plate on so I reckon it will be ready for service in August
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JasonL
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It will be if it's a 26 plate because if it went out in service in September then it would have received a 76 plate possibly?
MCRTransitYT
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Well a lot of the drivers have to be trained on the new type, and with only 2 buses being present, I very much doubt they'll be entering service in August. We will have to wait and see, and also not guess to just let the process happen.
If the bus goes on driver/type training before September, it will retain its 26 plate
Class 466
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That means nothing in relation to service entry - some of the BZLs that entered service at Middleton are 74 plates despite entering service in December 2025!
darylyates17
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It’s to do when a vehicle is first taxed if it ends up being taxed after the newer plate is out then a vehicle is re registered onto the newer plate.
MCRTransitYT
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On the latest Rotala Fleet Changes, it is reported that Diamond Bolton 30659 and 30660 have been withdrawn. Is this due to Go North West taking over the franchsises, but I thought it's a bit early to be moving buses.