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Transport for Wales Class 231 / 756 Stadler FLIRTs

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I am due to spend a few days in Cardiff shortly and was wondering whether 231005 had returned from wheel turning duties, I am also after 756007, both of which I haven't been able to find on RTT recently.

I see the Welsh Government are in discussions with London for a further £46m to enhance the core Valley Lines. No details though.
 
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I am due to spend a few days in Cardiff shortly and was wondering whether 231005 had returned from wheel turning duties, I am also after 756007, both of which I haven't been able to find on RTT recently.

I see the Welsh Government are in discussions with London for a further £46m to enhance the core Valley Lines. No details though.
231005 returned yesterday from Holyhead and 756007 has been at Canton since the 6th of July.
 

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09/07/26 - ROG Class 37 - 37884 & TfW Class 231 - 231003 - Cardiff Canton Sdgs to Holyhead Car M.D.
 

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I am due to spend a few days in Cardiff shortly and was wondering whether 231005 had returned from wheel turning duties, I am also after 756007, both of which I haven't been able to find on RTT recently.

I see the Welsh Government are in discussions with London for a further £46m to enhance the core Valley Lines. No details though.
Is that the £46m from the spending review last year? If so I don't think there's discussions as much as it's been promised?
 

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Not sure. The figure was quoted in an article in my Engineering Magazine along with additional funding for Transport. The gist of the article was that the new Welsh Government wanted a larger slice of the Transport Budget in line with the proportion of railways in Wales to the whole of the system.
 

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Does anyone know if any mainline crew training has ever happened for 231 units? Or for the vale of Glamorgan training for the 756 units?

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Also any idea on how many 231s would need to be available to take over e.g. the Maesteg route?
 

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Also any idea on how many 231s would need to be available to take over e.g. the Maesteg route?
Maesteg - Ebbw Vale is 4 diagrams, another 3 needed for Cardiff - Cheltenham. I believe long term plan for Ebbw Vale - Newport is to use 197s, but if they were 231 as well that would be another 2.
 

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Quite often now seeing one or two 231s on TAM and one or two 756s on Rhymney-Barry each day :)

The odd 231 has been popping up on the lines through Pontypridd but I hadn't spotted 756s going further than Caerphilly. Must pay more attention!
 

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The odd 231 has been popping up on the lines through Pontypridd but I hadn't spotted 756s going further than Caerphilly. Must pay more attention!

756/1s seem to be at least semi-regular on Barry Island to Bargoed services now :) 756107 and 756114 were on that route on Monday, I travelled on 756114 out of Barry Island in the afternoon. The difference from the days of a solo 150/2 was enormous!

I’m no expert but I don’t think they’re going to Rhymney just yet. I might be wrong and just not seen it, however based on Monday just gone that end of the line was all 231s.
 

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I had 756107 from Rhymney on Monday to Barry Island.

I missed that somehow the other day, although admittedly I was perhaps focusing more on the Bargoed services. Thanks for confirming Rhymney does indeed see 756/1s, I must make an effort to do Queen Street to Rhymney on one of them :)

How to attach that to an adventure of exploring I wonder!
 

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24/07/26 - Europhoenix Class 37 - 37512 "Thornaby Demon" & TfW Class 231 - 231003 - Holyhead Car M.D. to Cardiff Canton Sidings
 

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24/07/26 - Europhoenix Class 37 - 37512 "Thornaby Demon" & TfW Class 231 - 231003 - Holyhead Car M.D. to Cardiff Canton Sidings
Do we know when the Canton wheel lathe is due to be back in service?

At least North Wales rail users get to see what will hopefully be commonplace in North Wales soon in the meantime, namely Stadler level boarding stock.
 

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Do we know when the Canton wheel lathe is due to be back in service?

At least North Wales rail users get to see what will hopefully be commonplace in North Wales soon in the meantime, namely Stadler level boarding stock.

Later in 2026. It's actually a machine replacement with a brand new machine, the 1984 one failed in March 2026 (about 6 months earlier than was expected) following its first major overhaul in 2019.
Do you know if the new wheel lathe is part of the new £12 million bogie drop at Canton recently officially opened?
 

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Do you know if the new wheel lathe is part of the new £12 million bogie drop at Canton recently officially opened?
I don't think so, no. The bogie drop is a new extension to the depot, whereas the new wheel lathe is going in the original building in the same space as the old one and I believe it's not actually part of the bogie drop project or cost figure. Happy to be corrected of course.
 
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Hi - I’ve been suitably informed that 231005 is awaiting parts at the moment and just wondered if anyone knew if it is visible from passing trains (to Barry / Bridgend) presently….
Many thanks in advance.
 

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To see the back of Canton Depot you need the Aberdare service not Barry Island or Penarth. You can get off at Ninian Park and take the next service back if you miss something.
 

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Have there been any updates on the 231 hybrid conversions? Do we know when they might begin and whether they're being carried out in the UK or Switzerland?
 

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As far as I know the only route they never do yet is the Bridgend service. As that presumably needs alot more staff training that's just not happened yet.
 

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As far as I know the only route they never do yet is the Bridgend service. As that presumably needs alot more staff training that's just not happened yet.
Bridgend is Cardiff Mainline and I dont think training has started yet?
 

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Bridgend is Cardiff Mainline and I dont think training has started yet?
Training (I believe!) commences on Monday with 3Gxx headcodes from Canton.

From memory, there's two 3Gxx path's that goes to Bridgend via the Vale of Glamorgan line and two 3Gxx path's for Class 231 training to Gloucester.

Find most paths using this RTT link, ignore any that are not 3Gxx headcodes as they're irrelevant.
 

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