Iskra
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Greater Anglia have announced that they are trialling overnight services on Friday nights to Stansted Airport over the summer 
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Additional routes that could justify a 24hr per day train service?
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devon_belle
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A lot of locals think that GWR should run night trains on the Devon Metro.
William3000
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Interesting they will be running to Tottenham Hale rather than London Liverpool Street to connect with BBC the Victoria line. I don’t know whether they will be making intermediate stops at Harlow Town or Bishop’s Stortford but the latter could be useful especially given how many airline crew and airport staff live there.Greater Anglia have announced that they are trialling overnight services on Friday nights to Stansted Airport over the summer
Severnia333
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Birmingham Cross City (Longbridge to Sutton section) and New Street-International shuttle would surely be viable, surely enough demand from flights, shift workers and late night partygoers (especially students).
aron2smith
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No intermediate stops at all which is disappointing as it's a half hourly service all night. I don't see why they can't run the 04:40 Liverpool Street to Stanstead Airport journey's stopping pattern overnight, at least once an hour as a stopping service and the other as the more usual limited stop. So it calls at Tottenham Hale, Cheshunt, Broxbourne, Harlow Town, Bishops Stortford and Stanstead Mountfitchet. Maybe an additional stop in Enfield Lock to help ease pressure on the N279.
It would help balance the fact that local buses run from the airport to Bishops Stortford and Harlow while coaches run to a variety of destinations across North London all night. Those of us in the middle get nothing but an £80+ taxi!
Kite159
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Especially as running to Tottenham Hale reduces the ability to get diverted via the Seven Sisters route if there be engineering works
It can presumably be diverted to Seven Sisters (for the Victoria Line) in that case.
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The Planner
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New St International is pointless unless you have a load of other routes open. No one is going to get themselves to New St to then get a train. They'll just get a cab or drive from where they live to the airport.
pr1
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Re: the Manchester/Liverpool/Preston services mentioned in this thread.
I'm perhaps too old now, it's just I remember being able to visit Manchester for gigs or clubs and use Piccadilly at almost any time to get home. Those days are long gone (both my clubbing days and the overnight trains!)
There really is a need for them, even if they just run as "staff trains" as described above: 0100 or 0200 from Manc to Bolton and Preston, or something similar. The late night economy is really damaged up here, and transport options form a significant part of both the problem and the solution.
(Anecdote time: I had a rail replacement bus from Manchester many many many years ago. I knew something was going awry when we drove around Bolton twice but luckily the driver fathomed out the A-roads before making it a third!)
I'm perhaps too old now, it's just I remember being able to visit Manchester for gigs or clubs and use Piccadilly at almost any time to get home. Those days are long gone (both my clubbing days and the overnight trains!)
There really is a need for them, even if they just run as "staff trains" as described above: 0100 or 0200 from Manc to Bolton and Preston, or something similar. The late night economy is really damaged up here, and transport options form a significant part of both the problem and the solution.
(Anecdote time: I had a rail replacement bus from Manchester many many many years ago. I knew something was going awry when we drove around Bolton twice but luckily the driver fathomed out the A-roads before making it a third!)
The fact that there isn't a "semi-local" bus service to those areas running through the night says a lot about the likely numbers of users. It's all very well having service to / from airports but people need to be able to access them at the other end. Not many people are going to want to walk more than a short distance to / from their not-so-local station at 2 in the morning and asking anyone for a lift is likely to be countered with "I might as well take you all the way" (at that time of the morning, it's the getting up and going that's the problem, not the roads getting there!). Same goes for "get a taxi to the station" - not only does it double the number of legs on which something might not turn up but also then leads to the "well we might as well get it all the way" - after all if you're going off for a week, £80 compares fairly with the cost of airport parking. From you post mentioning the £80+ taxi - I assume that's to the airport, rather than to Harlow to pick up that local bus service, which would presumably be a lot cheaper, but more of a faff.
Mgameing123
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GWR already does this between London and Reading. And honestly i believe that vast majority of 4 tracked lines could get 24 hour service. Lets start by running GWR 24/7 to Oxford, West Coast Mainline stoppers to Milton Keynes, East Anglia line to Shenfield (Greater Anglia not Elizabeth Line).
rmHawk765
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Not far from here, trains to Hertford North used to be 24hr, hourly at night like Night Thameslink is for example.
They ran STP this weekend but do not appear in the planners ongoing - anyone know why? Going to be hard to attract custom if no one gets offered them when planning a journey!Greater Anglia have announced that they are trialling overnight services on Friday nights to Stansted Airport over the summer
Mikey C
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As well as coaches, lots of bus routes run to Stansted through the night, especially from Essex, so airport shift workers in lots of towns are able to get there already. e.g. Bishop's Stortford, Harlow, Colchester, Chelmsford, Southend.