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Wolverhampton has a once a day Avanti West Coast service passing through non stop (9F02 06:16 London Euston to Liverpool Lime Street).
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"Trivia" Through stations with extremely few passenger trains which do not call
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Well spotted - turning out that there are many more stations with these "rare" cases across the UK than I appreciated when I started this thread!
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A similar situation prevails at both Inverkeithing and Kirkcaldy in Fife where the vast majority of trains including all Anglo-Scottish (LNER, XC and CS) call at both BUT the roughly hourly Edinburgh-Aberdeen ScotRail trains after Haymarket are normally first stop Cupar. Such is the (mistaken) perception of many passengers that "all the trains going through Inverkeithing and Kirkcaldy call there" that occasionally folk get overcarried if they've not (for whatever reason) been influenced by relevant signage or verbal announcements. Perhaps there is scope for a seperate thread - "Stations where passengers are regularly overcarried" - if there has not already been one.
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We had Birmingham International and Coventry yet?
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Surely on most suburban lines this must apply to virtually every station? In Glasgow for example every stop is served on the Paisley Canal Line, the East Kilbride branch, and virtually all of the North Clyde/Argyle Lines?
There was no such thing as planning permission in the days when the railways were built!
What skips those? I was on an XC that was first stop Leamington that went that way once, I assumed it was a route knowledge thing (someone not signing via Solihull) rather than a regular scheduled route.
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The Highland Sleeper (for Fort William, Inverness and Aberdeen) passes Coventry.
Not sure if anything passes Birmingham Airport
Fenchurch SP
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The overnight Thameslinks also run non stop through London Bridge.
Edinburgh Waverley: the up Fort William sleeper is booked to pass through eastbound non-stop before reversing in the northern Calton Tunnel.
Coatbridge Sunnyside, Airdrie, Drumgelloch Livingston North, Uphall: I believe everything is booked to stop except the (Fort William) sleeper.
Bugle, Roche and Quintrill Downs: most services call however 2 daily round trips (the long distance Newquay services) skip them.
Coatbridge Sunnyside, Airdrie, Drumgelloch Livingston North, Uphall: I believe everything is booked to stop except the (Fort William) sleeper.
Bugle, Roche and Quintrill Downs: most services call however 2 daily round trips (the long distance Newquay services) skip them.
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I rather think an Act of Parliament might be seen as planning permission.
It might still happen when Grand Central divert through New Pudsey and the Whitehall curve.
There used to be odd morning and evening trains on the Harrogate line which missed Starbeck or Hornbeam Park but that seems to have been straightened out now.
Mattplans
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Only a handful of Southeastern trains do not call at Denmark Hill. All Thameslink and Overgound trains stop.
devon_belle
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Motspur Purk is only skipped by one train per day, 2D51. That is firmly within commuter territory though.
Are we counting diversions? If so quite a few options open up. Redhill potentially being a big one?
Are we counting diversions? If so quite a few options open up. Redhill potentially being a big one?
Yes diversions count.
devon_belle
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Planned diverted trains skip Sutton and Dorking (but not Epsom or Horsham) a few days per year. Rarely even Epsom during ad hoc diversions due to disruption. Obviously in both those cases there are a lot of commuter stations that are otherwise not skipped, like Cheam and Leatherhead. More common are diversions between Balham and Sutton via West Croydon, including ad hoc, which gives the stations on that line the occasional non stop service.
Lots of other diversion options. Romsey, Winchester, and Andover come to mind as getting them fairly regularly.
Another commuter one (not diversion): Hackbridge, Mitcham Junction, and Mitcham Eastfields are only skipped by 1I05 and 1I06.
Newton Abbot is passed only by 1C79 (summer only).
Totnes is only passed by a few trains per day, mix of GWR and XC.
The up WAG Express didn’t call at Prestatyn until the May timetable change. It also used to have two other services which missed it out in recent years. But I think everything now stops, with the standardisation that has accompanied the enhanced service between Chester and Llandudno Junction.
Although I do recall an early Sunday service which was non-stop from Rhyl to Shotton and on checking, the 0717 Holyhead-Crewe does omit Prestatyn, so perhaps this is the only service in the whole week that doesn’t call?
Although I do recall an early Sunday service which was non-stop from Rhyl to Shotton and on checking, the 0717 Holyhead-Crewe does omit Prestatyn, so perhaps this is the only service in the whole week that doesn’t call?
Pnerick81
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Preston . Can’t think of a single passenger train not stopping apart from rail tours and even all them might
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Isn't the Highland Sleeper a variable route? (i.e. uses whichever parts of the WCML that are not closed for overnight engineering or maintenance works on that particular day?)
Edit: my mistake, I just noticed that it calls at Bham International.
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The OP is after stations where a small number of trains don’t call, but not none.
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How about the CS Lowland Sleeper, i.e. Glasgow Central / Motherwell / Carstairs / Edinburgh to / from London Euston?
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I think Redhill might be a good one.
If we discout everything going via the Quarry (fast) lines and only look at what passes through the station. Here are the passenger trains that seem to not stop Mon-Fri: (working from midnight to midnight in my list)
1H72 at 00:36
9N17 at 00:40
9N04 at 01:54
9N01 at 02:20
9N08 at 02:54
9N05 at 03:20
9N12 at 03:54
9N09 at 04:20
9N14 at 04:27
1G98 at 05:05
9N13 at 05:23
1W92 at 05:37
9N15 at 05:40
1G01 at 05:53
1F71 at 23:34
9N16 at 23:41
1A66 at 23:56
There is also loads of freight, many empties, and all sorts of weird services in the data, but these are the only regular passenger trains to non-stop, for the day I looked at.
SE diversions non-stop Redhill, as do fast trains when diverted if the Quarry lines are shut.
If we discout everything going via the Quarry (fast) lines and only look at what passes through the station. Here are the passenger trains that seem to not stop Mon-Fri: (working from midnight to midnight in my list)
1H72 at 00:36
9N17 at 00:40
9N04 at 01:54
9N01 at 02:20
9N08 at 02:54
9N05 at 03:20
9N12 at 03:54
9N09 at 04:20
9N14 at 04:27
1G98 at 05:05
9N13 at 05:23
1W92 at 05:37
9N15 at 05:40
1G01 at 05:53
1F71 at 23:34
9N16 at 23:41
1A66 at 23:56
There is also loads of freight, many empties, and all sorts of weird services in the data, but these are the only regular passenger trains to non-stop, for the day I looked at.
SE diversions non-stop Redhill, as do fast trains when diverted if the Quarry lines are shut.
As long as stopping for staffing or pathing reasons doesn't count.
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You make a valid point. Definitely not a passenger call at Preston.
Happy for these to be treated as non-stopping for passenger purposes. Does anything not call at Carlisle for passenger purposes? Some ECML diversions might be contentious contenders? Also presumably WCML diverts via S&C will breeze through a few stations which are used to everything stopping?
renegademaster
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Does anything not call at Colchester?
duffield
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Would it be correct to say that there have never been any scheduled passenger services, (including scheduled diversions), passing through Nottingham without stopping?
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Don't think the (Highand) Caledonian Sleeper to/from Fort William, Inverness and Aberdeen, to/from London Euston, normally ever calls at Carlisle in either direction.
devon_belle
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9P19 does not, so Colchester is a candidate for this thread.
so, with the Lowland sleeper that is 4 non-stops... Looks like Newton Abbott, Coventry and Prestatyn (p.s. and Wolves) win with just 1 train not calling per day each? Preston has the sleeper in each direction.
(I don't think trains on diversions really count, and NTA looks like it might be sneaking in with a summer
edit - plus Colchester!
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devon_belle
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Gloucester strikes me as one where nothing is regularly scheduled to pass, but on diversions they do? Same with Woolston.
Torre is only skipped by 1M41, 1M61, 1A98, and 1B91.
Botley is only skipped by 1Y30, 1Y39, 2M95, 1Y99.
Stations between Guildford and Surbiton via Effingham Junction and Cobham are only skipped by 5 trains per day, but more during diversions.
Torre is only skipped by 1M41, 1M61, 1A98, and 1B91.
Botley is only skipped by 1Y30, 1Y39, 2M95, 1Y99.
Stations between Guildford and Surbiton via Effingham Junction and Cobham are only skipped by 5 trains per day, but more during diversions.
Correction: 2D53 as well.
Off topic, but that is its booked route in the WTT now, for route knowledge retention. 1036 Glasgow to Oban does it the other way.