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I feel like I do hear about reliability issues with many things north of Preston, OLE included. However, there's not much 3 or 4 track sections so doesn't come up against the headspan problems of ECML. The material used for contact and catenary wires on WCML north is also an issue which I think has been slightly improved by replacement efforts over the years.
 
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I feel like I do hear about reliability issues with many things north of Preston, OLE included. However, there's not much 3 or 4 track sections so doesn't come up against the headspan problems of ECML. The material used for contact and catenary wires on WCML north is also an issue which I think has been slightly improved by replacement efforts over the years.
Any comparison should of course ignore any purely age-related issues and concentrate purely on those to do with (lack of) robustness etc.
 
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Fair enough, I think the material problem was not something known when Mark 3a/b was being installed but ended up corroding and failing at a rate faster than the intended design life. But I'll admit I don't know much about this subject - but I do hear about AWAC replacement as a constant consideration. Also worth noting that Series 2 OLE is based on Mark 3c in a way that Great Western Series 1, the most fundamental difference being the strict requirement for mechanical independent registration. Fundamentally I'd trust that engineers have developed a more reliable iteration based of the strengths of mark 3.
 

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All our yesterdays - as I was reminded by an old article in the Railway Magazine of 11th August 2023 itself reprinting a long article from their October 1986 edition "Manchester - the Divided City". It reminds that the Hazel Grove chord had just been opened in May 1986 to improve the Sheffield - Manchester - Liverpool service. The year after the double tracks through Dore & Totley station were singled to create a bottleneck that took almost 40 years to remove.

Oh yes, the Picc - Vic tunnel appears too. See; https://www.railwaymagazine.co.uk/2...hmw0Cyw-XokjoIO-RF_aem_fEjEpXAcl8QGHoUIugz6kQ
40 years goes by and the problem still hasn't been solved
 

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I like the way any OHLE looks because it signals capability and investment, not only of money but of trust and intention that railway's are a serious form of transport that are a part of the modern world. More often than it should be, the railways in Britain seem to operate as emotional infrastructure to remind us of some undefined past greatness. What does it mean about out national sentiment to railways that we have so many more heritage ones than anywhere else?
Despite my misgivings about electrification on pricing grounds, the aesthetics are something which I don't have even the slightest objection to. As far as I'm concerned, they're no more "disruptive" than seeing a 400kV pylon, and unlike certain NIMBYs in my old neck of the woods, I can fully appreciate that seeing pylons and wires is part of the price for the convenience of the magic that is electricity.

Mind you, I do wonder if you could plant some Oak or Beech alongside, both to "cover up" the OLE from the whining NIMBY brigade, and also as a way of possibly churning out a small penny here and there while maintaining "green" credentials. Oak and Beech tend to have fairly long trunks below without branches, so you can still maintain sightlines from window level while the canopies can grow and hide the OLE from sight. Meanwhile, Oak itself (when devegging time comes along) sells for quite a pretty penny as it's prized in furniture construction and just as a general hardwood.
 

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Mind you, I do wonder if you could plant some Oak or Beech alongside, both to "cover up" the OLE from the whining NIMBY brigade, and also as a way of possibly churning out a small penny here and there while maintaining "green" credentials. Oak and Beech tend to have fairly long trunks below without branches, so you can still maintain sightlines from window level while the canopies can grow and hide the OLE from sight. Meanwhile, Oak itself (when devegging time comes along) sells for quite a pretty penny as it's prized in furniture construction and just as a general hardwood.
Thus creating an increasing problem as the decades go by. At first it's just leaf fall in the autumn accompanied by branches scraping rail traffic each spring. That's happening a lot in my part of the country in 2026. Then as trees get too big to be supported by their roots and old branches die back and snap off, they fall anywhere nearby, including across railway lines and OLE.

Aesthetically and environmentally very nice but operationally beside railways a long term liability.
 

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Meanwhile, Oak itself (when devegging time comes along) sells for quite a pretty penny as it's prized in furniture construction and just as a general hardwood.
I suspect Oak has to be left for an approximate human lifetime before it's worth any serious money for lumber.
 

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Network Rail has launched a £64m tender for a tunnel and slab track package on the Transpennine Route Upgrade (TRU) between Stalybridge and Huddersfield.

The contract, procured through a competitive tender under the Procurement Act 2023, covers tunnel track lowering, slab track installation, gauge clearance and electrification enabling works.
 

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Ive just watched the latest video from Sarah Bell. I was under the impression that Dewsbury was being reduced to 2 tracks in order to increase linespeed *, but in the video they seem to of reinstated all 3 tracks, is this no longer the case? (* i might have just misinterpreted something along the way of this mammoth project!)
 

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Thats going to need a long closure to undertake not really practical to do it in sections
The link says the "specialist" part (presumably the slab track) is in Stalybridge and Scout tunnels, which are much shorter than Standedge but (according to previous discussion here) also have much tighter clearances.
 

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Thus creating an increasing problem as the decades go by. At first it's just leaf fall in the autumn accompanied by branches scraping rail traffic each spring. That's happening a lot in my part of the country in 2026. Then as trees get too big to be supported by their roots and old branches die back and snap off, they fall anywhere nearby, including across railway lines and OLE.

Aesthetically and environmentally very nice but operationally beside railways a long term liability.
Off topic but I've often thought Monkey Puzzles would be ideal trees to plant next to a railway. They grow fairly slowly, don't drop any leaves/needles and they're so spiky they'd stop trespassers too.
 

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Ive just watched the latest video from Sarah Bell. I was under the impression that Dewsbury was being reduced to 2 tracks in order to increase linespeed *, but in the video they seem to of reinstated all 3 tracks, is this no longer the case? (* i might have just misinterpreted something along the way of this mammoth project!)
There’s a suggestion in one of the videos that they did have a proposal early on to reduce to 2 tracks, but it was decided not to proceed. Perhaps they preferred to retain the overtaking possibilities.
 

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Just stoped by Dewsbury to see the progress this evening and it looks as the Leeds fast and slow are back in use, with the Huddersfield bound line underway with renewals. Roof now seems to be reappearing on the footbridge again.
 

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Unlike at Diggle, where the loop is set to be ripped up.

When the box was removed it received new signals and was re-controlled from York ROC along with the rest of the area so presumably there was a change of thought or maybe it was just a rumour that gained traction
 

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At 352m it might be a bit short for freight, but it is able to turn back trains that then cross over at the newish Uppermill Junction which will be useful if they run trains as far as Greenfield during closure of Standedge or beyond. In the longer term perhaps less so, with the three-track layout proposed beyond the tunnel offering better scope for overtaking.
 

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Re Batley Station Area

The Batley station subway has now been infilled. (Around five days between photo’s below.

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The first OLE masts have appeared in and around platform two.

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Both platforms have been lengthened and widened. Platform facing and tactile edging has begun on platform two.

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For comparison, a few photos before the blockade started.



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Passed through the Leeds area on an XC service today, and noticed that masonry bolts have appeared in a few new places in Marsh Lane Cutting. The patterns seem to be consistent with portal mounting brackets either side of it, so it's a reasonable assumption that OLE is likely to be renewed/replaced to the west of Neville Hill.
Further east, a handful of large portals (Series 1 style, a la the portal conversions near Neville Hill) have cropped up between Cross Gates & Austhorpe Lane bridge.
 

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I find it slightly amusing that the next section of the Leeds bound platform still isn't as wide as the widest part of the existing platform, leaving a pretty useless space between it and the former goods shed, now Angloco. The original gap was left by the removal of the old Birstall branch & associated bay platform; the platform used to be as long as a the goods shed.
 

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Re Batley Station Area

The Batley station subway has now been infilled. (Around five days between photo’s below.

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The first OLE masts have appeared in and around platform two.

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Both platforms have been lengthened and widened. Platform facing and tactile edging has begun on platform two.

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For comparison, a few photos before the blockade started.



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Interesting pictures thanks. There looks to be lots to do before the blockade ends.
Unlike Dewsbury unless ive missed something they dont seem to be renewing the track at Batley.
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I know there's major works going on at the moment from Mirfield towards Dewsbury and Leeds but what's the nature of the works this weekend meaning that the diversion route via Wakefield can't be used either?

If anybody want's to travel over to Leeds this weekend looks like the only option is via Calder Valley on Northern.
 

YorkshireBear

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They are increasing the line speed through there and the layout will change at the York end so maybe associated with that.
 

Spartacus

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I know there's major works going on at the moment from Mirfield towards Dewsbury and Leeds but what's the nature of the works this weekend meaning that the diversion route via Wakefield can't be used either?

If anybody want's to travel over to Leeds this weekend looks like the only option is via Calder Valley on Northern.

It's all blocked from Bradley Jn to Dewsbury East Jn so must be something pretty major.
 

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It's all blocked from Bradley Jn to Dewsbury East Jn so must be something pretty major.
Sarah Bell's latest video;
at 1 minute in they were digging up the junction at Heaton Lodge where the ex-Wakefield (ex Mirfield platform 3) track converges with the mainline this morning. I expect they need to get that track back down pronto - it's needed on Monday!
 

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