Invincible
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Can the Status of fleet on the first post be updated?
Presume Porterbrook will want all leased units serviceable when returned
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SWR Class 458/4s: fleet status and withdrawal updates
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Presume Porterbrook will want all leased units serviceable when returned
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dodger
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Trainlogger is showing 8 458/4 units at BournemouthTMD.
They are:
458825
458422
458418
458419
458416
458406
458411
458417
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They are:
458825
458422
458418
458419
458416
458406
458411
458417
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Siemens Staines
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Thank you for this list, it appears to confirm all of my assumptions. There is another STP 5X95 to Bournemouth planned for next Friday
Realtime Trains | 5X95 1217 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D | 05/06/2026
Real-time train running information for 5X95 1217 departure from Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D on 05/06/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
This is in addition to the regular Monday WTT 5X95 path although I don't think the Monday train often runs? The fact that someone has created an STP path for Friday would suggest that it is more likely to run, although whether or not the Q path will be activated is a different matter.
I don't know what the depot capacity is at Bournemouth, but presumably at some point in their run down 458/4s will have to be held in warm store at other locations.
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A lot depends on current depot throughput, order of arrivals, maintenance (CET), cleaning etc prior to stabling and departure order (times) next day, but reference the latest base plan CWN as per the SWR website and the number of 444/450's working out of there each SX day (excluding any maintenance spare units of same classes that may also be held there), the current tally of eight x 458 can be accommodated on two roads, and likely there is still space for another eight, before things start to become a tad tight.
But this is based on how the depot was over a decade ago, so my knowledge of same may be out of date?
dodger
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I’ll do my best to see as it gets closer to Bournemouth.Thank you for this list, it appears to confirm all of my assumptions. There is another STP 5X95 to Bournemouth planned for next Friday
Realtime Trains | 5X95 1217 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D | 05/06/2026
Real-time train running information for 5X95 1217 departure from Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D on 05/06/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
This is in addition to the regular Monday WTT 5X95 path although I don't think the Monday train often runs? The fact that someone has created an STP path for Friday would suggest that it is more likely to run, although whether or not the Q path will be activated is a different matter.
I don't know what the depot capacity is at Bournemouth, but presumably at some point in their run down 458/4s will have to be held in warm store at other locations.
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Down to 6 diagrams / pairs next week so maybe the July rumour has something to it
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Thank goodness 458411 has gone for now. Always detested getting that unit on a Weybridge with its traction packages out.
Always seemed to follow me like a bad smell
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dodger
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Does any one know if 5X95 has left Wimbledo Park anonyously today? I cant find on either RTT or Traksy!
Any information will be appreciated.
Dodger
Any information will be appreciated.
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Siemens Staines
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Likewise, I have not spotted any evidence of 5X95 running. Possibly related to an extra pair of 458/4s covering for a 701 this morning, which may just be a coincidence?
dodger
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Are there any decent vantage points at Bournemouth depot.
dodger
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Not really. I only one is the main entrance gate which has limited vision and not close enough to identify individual units.
If anybody knows any good locations please let me know.
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If anybody knows any good locations please let me know.
Dodger
Thanks for your help. I rather suspected that.
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It looks like a 7th pair of 458 is planned to be in use this morning
458427 + 458428
2U21 0933 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside
2U28 1053 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo
2U31 1203 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside
2U38 1323 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo
2U41 1433 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside
2U48 1553 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo
2U51 1703 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside
2U58 1823 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo
2U61 1933 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside
2U68 2053 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo
2U71 2203 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside
2U78 2305 Windsor & Eton Riverside to Staines
replacing 701021 that looks to be then be covering for 701033 which has been caught up in some sort of incident with some cows at Claygate.
458427 + 458428
2U21 0933 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside
2U28 1053 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo
2U31 1203 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside
2U38 1323 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo
2U41 1433 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside
2U48 1553 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo
2U51 1703 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside
2U58 1823 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo
2U61 1933 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside
2U68 2053 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo
2U71 2203 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside
2U78 2305 Windsor & Eton Riverside to Staines
replacing 701021 that looks to be then be covering for 701033 which has been caught up in some sort of incident with some cows at Claygate.
Invincible
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Cleared at 10am according to SWR CS on X!
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I’ve tried to update this list with what info I have. If anyone has further or better info please let me know.
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458401 returned to service 05.05.26
458410 has been out of service since 05.02.26
14 units in service today (1 pair covering for a 701)
458402,404,405,409,412-415,420,421,424,426-428
Another 3 units have been in service within the last two days
458401,408,423
Aside from the 8 units at Bournemouth, that leaves 3 units and their last in service dates was
458403 02.06.26 possibly in warm store?
458407 01.06.26 possibly in warm store?
458410 05.02.26 failed at Brentford on 2V51
The was a planned STP 5X95 to Bournemouth last Friday which did not appear to run. The fact that 5X95 was planned to run implies that another pair were planned to go in to warm store at Bournemouth. I suspect that pair was 458403 + 458407 but are in warm store at Wimbledon rather than Bournemouth. I stress that I do not know that as a fact. The next STP 5X95 to Bournemouth is planned for tomorrow. If it runs and past precedence is anything to go by, that may involve units currently in service today.
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Down to 5 diagrams (pairs) from next week according to another thread.
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5X95 is a runner this week. Any information on the units involved will be much appreciated.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
Realtime Trains | 5X95 1217 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D | 12/06/2026
Real-time train running information for 5X95 1217 departure from Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D on 12/06/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
Units were 8407 and 8403. Saw them at Basingstoke.
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Thank you for this information
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At this rate they'll all be gone by the end of next month.
Catch them while you can!
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Today's 5X95 was formed of 458407 leading 458403 as seen at Hinton Admiral.
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That leaves just 18 in traffic. Is a weekly move of these units likely to become a regular thing? Is there room at Bournemouth for all 28 units?
Apparently some will be stored in the old Siemens part of strawberry Hill Depot
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Is there a 5X95 to Bournemouth tomorrow? Can’t see any sign of it on RTT.
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Yes
Realtime Trains | 5X95 1217 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D | 19/06/2026
Real-time train running information for 5X95 1217 departure from Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D on 19/06/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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There is also an STP 5X95 loaded for next Friday
Realtime Trains | 5X95 1217 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D | 26/06/2026
Real-time train running information for 5X95 1217 departure from Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D on 26/06/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
Whether they run is another matter.
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Today’s doesn’t seem to have been activated as yet.Yes
Realtime Trains | 5X95 1217 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D | 19/06/2026
Real-time train running information for 5X95 1217 departure from Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D on 19/06/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
There is also an STP 5X95 loaded for next Friday
Realtime Trains | 5X95 1217 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D | 26/06/2026
Real-time train running information for 5X95 1217 departure from Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D on 26/06/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
Whether they run is another matter.
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If running it is often activated later in the morning. Today there are a number of delays and cancellations due to infrastructer problems.
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