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Hi Dave,
Yes I am - As the case is meant to be sat on the 20th, I've not got much time. The Guilty plea will see me pay £105 including VAT and a £79 penalty - its a lot better than 4-5k so any advice on next steps would be greatly appreciated. I'm not too sure on the Jargon that people are...
Dave,
You're a legend - I think this post has made my day! I've changed my plea to guilty and have contacted the TOC for an out of court settlement, which is my first option as I do not want my record tarnished in anyway.
My plan was to wait for a reply from the Prosecution Manager as to...
Hi,
As I am unable to settle out of court, I have to plea guilty and I've also sent over an email clearly stating my intenions to the CEO.
I will keep you posted, although will probably not come to anything...
I have changed my plea to Guilty, but requested we try and settle out of court as I did email them stating clear, factual information and they came back with;
National Railway Byelaw 18.1*(2005)
In any area not designated a compulsory ticket area,*person shall*enter any train*for the purpose...
One more thing - I've seeked legal advice and been told if found guilty under the bylaw
as its criminal I would get a criminal record - is this correct?
Hi Dave,
But the prosecution refers to 18.1/18.2. Anyways, I do not wish to frustrate you any further so wondering a few things before I admitt defeat; They have my statement tomorrow, so can I wait until they make a decision or do I have to A. Change plea to guilty B. Settle out of court or...
Thanks Alter Ego, can I ask are you legally qualified or is it of you're opinion - don't mean to sound rude, just want to ensure I'm taking the best advice?
Ok, so its my word against there's then....Well if I asked for the conductor to attend the hearing if it got that far and asked the question - did you check tickets during Bristol to Birmingham that is enough to put me in the clear as he would have checked mine and the question would be - why...
P.s. Dave I've no criminal record and never had train ticket issues as always allow plenty of time to collect my train ticket - travel a minimum on trains once a week.
Hi Dave,
The Fact the conductor before Bristol allowed this, surely that is good reason for this to not go any further? And also, I provided the ticket I bought online - I understand I am in breach of not being able to provide a valid ticket, but haven't all trains got CCTV on them so asking...
Hi Jonmorris - I assure you everything written in these threads are true - my dad spoke to my grandad who is an ex-policeman and he has said I should plea guilty with immitigating circumstances i.e. I had no ill intent and had paid for my ticket or settle out of court.
Yorkie - I will see...
Thanks Scotsman. As mentioned previously I've stupidly sent my 'not guilty plea' already which arrives tomorrow with my notes and I have enthusised on the first conductor authorising the ticket.
So if advised by the experts on here to call to settle before it goes to court I should contact...
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