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£179 - settled out of court! Ouch!

Hi Dave, Yes I am - As the case is meant to be sat on the 20th, I've not got much time. The Guilty plea will see me pay £105 including VAT and a £79 penalty - its a lot better than 4-5k so any advice on next steps would be greatly appreciated. I'm not too sure on the Jargon that people are...

Dave, You're a legend - I think this post has made my day! I've changed my plea to guilty and have contacted the TOC for an out of court settlement, which is my first option as I do not want my record tarnished in anyway. My plan was to wait for a reply from the Prosecution Manager as to...

Hi, As I am unable to settle out of court, I have to plea guilty and I've also sent over an email clearly stating my intenions to the CEO. I will keep you posted, although will probably not come to anything...

I have changed my plea to Guilty, but requested we try and settle out of court as I did email them stating clear, factual information and they came back with; National Railway Byelaw 18.1*(2005) In any area not designated a compulsory ticket area,*person shall*enter any train*for the purpose...

One more thing - I've seeked legal advice and been told if found guilty under the bylaw as its criminal I would get a criminal record - is this correct?

Apologies Dave, by appeal - I meant plea. I will leave it at that and call them tomorrow to change plea or attempt to settle.

Dave, A date hasn't been set though - it was the 20th Oct - but that was prior to my appeal - sorry I am really confused now.

Hi Dave, But the prosecution refers to 18.1/18.2. Anyways, I do not wish to frustrate you any further so wondering a few things before I admitt defeat; They have my statement tomorrow, so can I wait until they make a decision or do I have to A. Change plea to guilty B. Settle out of court or...

Thanks Alter Ego, can I ask are you legally qualified or is it of you're opinion - don't mean to sound rude, just want to ensure I'm taking the best advice?

Ok, so its my word against there's then....Well if I asked for the conductor to attend the hearing if it got that far and asked the question - did you check tickets during Bristol to Birmingham that is enough to put me in the clear as he would have checked mine and the question would be - why...

P.s. Dave I've no criminal record and never had train ticket issues as always allow plenty of time to collect my train ticket - travel a minimum on trains once a week.

Hi Dave, The Fact the conductor before Bristol allowed this, surely that is good reason for this to not go any further? And also, I provided the ticket I bought online - I understand I am in breach of not being able to provide a valid ticket, but haven't all trains got CCTV on them so asking...

Hi Jonmorris - I assure you everything written in these threads are true - my dad spoke to my grandad who is an ex-policeman and he has said I should plea guilty with immitigating circumstances i.e. I had no ill intent and had paid for my ticket or settle out of court. Yorkie - I will see...

Thanks Scotsman. As mentioned previously I've stupidly sent my 'not guilty plea' already which arrives tomorrow with my notes and I have enthusised on the first conductor authorising the ticket. So if advised by the experts on here to call to settle before it goes to court I should contact...

The letter came from the magistrates court - which had contact details for Transport Investigations limited??

Hi ALR, The first conductor mentioned to me he would be changing with the Birmingham conductor when checking my booking confirmation, I should have asked him to passed this on, but he said to me to explain and it will be fine. The 1st conductor got off at Birmingham so there was no chance of...

Yorkie, If I've already sent plea - which I sent via special delivery and will arrive Monday at 1pm - should I ring them and suggest the out of court settlement? They were suggesting the following costs (£79 plus £105) including VAT - if I was to settle, what would you suggest I offer and can I...

Thanks Yorkie, although its ultimately my fault I feel somewhat let down here by the legal system. Can I attempt to settle out of court if my plea is turned down as I asked the lady from Transport Investigations If I would have to attend court if plea/evidence was not accepted and she said...

Hi Alter Ego, What do you recommend I do? If Guilty would this be a 'criminal conviction'? And surely the train company would have a log of tickets checked on the first part of the journey which will provide proof my 'invalid ticket' was given permission to use by an authorised person - do...