Eagle
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Well the 380s were delivered via London... (as are most units built on the continent).
Another question is 'Are there any units/locos of any type still running in the UK that never get to London???
Only things I can think of of are EMU's of Central Scotland -
314
318
334
380
Wasn't there a Regional Railways/Cross Country/Virgin 158 Service from Manchester to Brighton via Kensington Olympia*?
*Kensington Olympia is, of course, not in London - but probably as close to London as you can get without being in London.
I am surprised everyone has forgotten the nocturnal visits made by Wales and West 158s to Waterloo on a service from (I think) Cardiff. Did this start pre privatisation, i.e. under Regional Railways, and when did it finish? And if it was after the Wales and West era, who ran it? Wales and Borders or Wessex? My memory seems to say that it did not last as long as Arriva Wales though. Any information gratefully recived.
507's.
Another question is 'Are there any units/locos of any type still running in the UK that never get to London???
Only things I can think of of are EMU's of Central Scotland -
314
318
334
380
And also 323's - but I would take a guess that one has escaped Birmingham in its life time to reach London???
No, the 508s were, the 507s went straight to Merseyside
Northerns 321s (3+2 seated) got to London after the Hatfield crash when the 91s were all off the road. 3 hours on that?!![]()
Despite being based at Bletchley in the early years I've never heard or seen evidence of them working south of Northampton in passenger service. I'd be surprised if they didn't work extras to Bletchley but I'd love to see evidence - and even more so south of Bletchley.And also 323's - but I would take a guess that one has escaped Birmingham in its life time to reach London???
Side point about 322s - hired to Silverlink on multiple occasions aswell so add EN-BNS to their meandering spheres of operation.
Despite being based at Bletchley in the early years I've never heard or seen evidence of them working south of Northampton in passenger service. I'd be surprised if they didn't work extras to Bletchley but I'd love to see evidence - and even more so south of Bletchley.
Side point about 322s - hired to Silverlink on multiple occasions aswell so add EN-BNS to their meandering spheres of operation.
So do they win one of the prizes for the most travelled unit in Northerns Fleet? 3 London Terminus & 2 Scottish ones too!
Northerns 321s (3+2 seated) got to London after the Hatfield crash when the 91s were all off the road. 3 hours on that?!![]()
Will we ever see a Pacer .....work in London?
No, they were all hauled dead though I am not sure of the route they took. The 333s were also delivered via the Channel Tunnel and were hauled to Neville Hill (IIRC) via the ECML.A question on the 185 Wembley-Longsight trip. Did 185s do this under their own power/with any engines running at all and also did they go via Stoke/Macclesfield or via Crewe?
Perhaps on the Northern fleet, yes.
However, I would like to make the case for the Cl317s. These units have worked regular passenger services out of every OLE electrified London terminus except for Paddington. They've been at least as far as Birmingham on the WCML, Newcastle on the ECML and Norwich on the GEML as well as working to other destinations along each line.
O L Leigh
You forgot 168s, 180s and 222s...
SWT used to have a few 170s going into Waterloo, but gave them to TPE in exchange for 158s. NXEA 170s regularly ran to Liverpool Street until 2010. 220s and 221s made it to Paddington in their first couple of years.
And a couple of months ago there was a FGW HST that died and was subbed with a 142+150.![]()
Never seen a 323 south of Northampton but have seen (and indeed been on) a 304 into / out of Euston.
They have also made it to Glasgow while being tested with the class 318s when they were new.
Not to London though. Only between Exeter and Swindon. I'm very suprised everyone has not mentioned the Silverlink 150's on Gospel Oak to Barking services. I have heard something about First Hull Trains borrowing a 185 on sunday's. Is this true & does it run to London or just to Doncaster?
I can't tell a 304 from a 305/308 however can confirm that units of this type sometimes came thru' Hemel Hempstead to Euston in the 80s when I was a kid
I can still feel the "shock-waves of horror" from London up here in Cheshire East after this rather dramatic scenario was posted..![]()
Urban myth. Disproved by Hunts Cross for a start.I'm not sure if this is actually true or is just an urban myth - but aren't 14x Pacers barred from any electrified line with 3rd rail? Presumably this is because of the excessive bogie movement may get too close ?
I'm not sure if this is actually true or is just an urban myth - but aren't 14x Pacers barred from any electrified line with 3rd rail? Presumably this is because of the excessive bogie movement may get too close ?
