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Having said underground or surface-level station, I thought that my wording was not in need of this clarification..:roll:
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Girl dies after falling between train and platform
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Having said underground or surface-level station, I thought that my wording was not in need of this clarification..:roll:
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James Street is curved as well, and on all the underground Merseyrail stations there is a significant gap between train and platform. 507s and 508s have wooden step boards admittedly, but I don't think it would be too difficult to slip down the side of the train.
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If you know someone who personally witnessed the incident, you should let them know that the BTP are looking to speak to witnesses: http://www.btp.presscentre.com/Medi...CE-TOGETHER-GEORGIA-S-FINAL-MOMENTS-1737.aspx
Depends which platform it was as to whether its curved, and its curved so that it would make the gap smaller (the platforms on the left and it curves to the left), And even so the gaps aren't that big, they're not as big as some of the gaps on the "City line" I.E. the Liverpool-Manchester.
I feel sad for the family and friends who were on the train and must have seen what happened. It just goes to show how dangerous running on the platform is. yet another safety announcement to listen to over and over again I guess.
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No sorry, it was just a friend quoting another media source.
Either way, the bottom line is, unless boarding a train, no one should be anywhere near the edge of the platform.
But I guess we all know that and Georgia didn't sadly. "Mind the gap" is simply not enough.
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Another young life gone, a pretty young lady prematurely taken from us, it must have been awful for the witnesses on the platform.
Found this on the BBC page linked to this incident
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-15463026 trolls on Facebook been posting abuse on a memorial page, it makes me sick to hear of horrible b******s like the vermin that is bred in certain partd of society
Found this on the BBC page linked to this incident
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-15463026 trolls on Facebook been posting abuse on a memorial page, it makes me sick to hear of horrible b******s like the vermin that is bred in certain partd of society
Indeed, quite sad...
I am well informed that most of the "abuse" was more about people suggesting she died by her own foolish actions, commenting that she should not have been running after a moving train.
Perhaps inconsiderate and disrespectful, but trolling?
RAIB aren't currently investigating. http://www.raib.gov.uk/publications/current_investigations_register.cfm
Nothing (yet) in the WON for that area either. Every time albeit limited time I have had cause to use the Mersey Rail services, I did wonder why no station staff despatch the trains, it appears everything is down to the conductor and some of those platforms are quite curved, and very busy at times. Maybe the night the incident in question happened, Mersey Rail were just short staffed.
Why would being short staffed make an any difference?
No platform staff / despatchers available on the platform to prevent train moving/ leaving without her.
Short staffed implies that there would normally be a dispatcher. But there isn't (as has already been said), so being short staffed would be irrelevant.
It hadn't already been said, (I checked), but I know now.
Begs the question, why no despatch at Mersey Rail stations?
Yes, sorry, it had been hinted at but not confirmed when you posted.
It doesn't really beg that question - 40 million or so people use the service a year without incident - so I could counter your question with why are despatch staff needed?
http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk...tion-during-evening-rush-hour-92534-26419614/
http://www.clickliverpool.com/news/...-death-at-liverpool-james-street-station.html
Two incidents of people falling under trains on the Underground section of Mersey Rail between 2010 and 2011 (that I can find). Probably more unreported in the press incidents. I do find it strange that RAIB haven't looked into either incident though.
Liverpool Central according to http://www.britishrailinformation.c...-report-identifies-most-overcrowded-stations/ is also dangerously overcrowded at times. Looking at some pictures, how can the conductor be sure the train is safe to leave when the platform is so busy?
Also, this article from the same rag seems to imply some sort of gate is being installed to prevent people from falling... just seems odd that there is no despatch if it is as busy as alleged.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/live...talled-to-protect-passengers-100252-29580428/
http://www.clickliverpool.com/news/...-death-at-liverpool-james-street-station.html
Two incidents of people falling under trains on the Underground section of Mersey Rail between 2010 and 2011 (that I can find). Probably more unreported in the press incidents. I do find it strange that RAIB haven't looked into either incident though.
Liverpool Central according to http://www.britishrailinformation.c...-report-identifies-most-overcrowded-stations/ is also dangerously overcrowded at times. Looking at some pictures, how can the conductor be sure the train is safe to leave when the platform is so busy?
Also, this article from the same rag seems to imply some sort of gate is being installed to prevent people from falling... just seems odd that there is no despatch if it is as busy as alleged.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/live...talled-to-protect-passengers-100252-29580428/
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The first could not be prevented by a dispatcher so is irrelevant to the point of needing dispatchers. It is arguable that the recent incident this thread is about could not be prevented by a dispatcher.
I don't need to look at the pictures, I use the station, as I do many tube stations, which are busier and do not have dispatchers or even a guard. Liverpool Central is also currently having £20 million spent on it which will help to ease platform crowding.
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