Platform saftey barriers.

[Lawman]

Folks,
Recently there has been several deaths North of the Border from persons falling/jumping from the platform or walking accross the tracks.There has also been near misses by small children far to close to the platform edge.l know that some London Tube Stations have a partition that spans the whole lengh of the platform and opens when the carrige arrives.

Was wondering if one day due to Health&Saftey reasons, all platforms would have these constructed.Good thing or Bad thing?

 

[Flamingo]

Amongst the initial problems I would see is that different types of rolling stock have doors in different positions, getting them to line up with gates would be a logistical nightmare!

 

[Darandio]

Bad thing.

If there has been an increase recently of people being killed, it's simply because many people in the world are starting to lack common sense. Nothing needs to be changed here, platforms have worked perfectly well in their current state for nearly 200 years.

 

[LexyBoy]

PEDs make sense on busy, cramped stations like the Tube and the core Crossrail stations because:
- People falling is more likely where there are large crowds pushing and shoving
- Standardised stock (Flamingo's point)
- The rest of the route is inaccessible
- A person under a train causes masses more chaos for a line carrying 20000+ people per hour than a minor suburban line with perhaps 1000 or fewer.

They don't make sense elsewhere because:
- Massive cost
- Stock standardisation issues
- Suicides/trespassers/chavs can get in anywhere else on the line
- You can't make anything idiot proof because idiots are so ingenious

Sorting out all those level crossings would make more sense.

 

[Schnellzug]

Very much a Bad Thing. Ticket Barriers are bad enough, I wouldn't want to be fenced in any more, thank you. Not to mention that it would add yet more inconvenience for anyone wanting to photograph & so on.

 

[stut]

They do work well on the more cramped Shinkansen stations, but again, a standardised door layout makes all the difference. That, and people who form an orderly queue for unreserved carriages...

 

[Greenback]

Not desirable at all in my opinion, though they have their place on busy metro systems.

It would just be another piece of infrastructure that would cause chaso when it failed to work!

 

[table38]

Will Crossrail have platform-edge doors?

 

[causton]

Will Crossrail have platform-edge doors?

Assume so - there was a mockup constructed and it had PEDs, with line maps and next train information above the doors in the glass - looked very nice

 

[telstarbox]

Even if all the trains that serve a station used the same stock, there would still be problems as some services would be 2-car and some 4-car etc so the platform doors would need to be operated selectively.

 

[michael769]

Amongst the initial problems I would see is that different types of rolling stock have doors in different positions, getting them to line up with gates would be a logistical nightmare!

The other problem is stopping the train in exactly the right position every time. I'm guessing that the tube services are those that are partially automated to achieve this. But even with that I suspect that the greater variability if railheads in the open air will make this a near impossibility with current rail technology.

 

[Mojo]

The other problem is stopping the train in exactly the right position every time. I'm guessing that the tube services are those that are partially automated to achieve this. But even with that I suspect that the greater variability if railheads in the open air will make this a near impossibility with current rail technology.

It is only since the end of last year that trains on the Jubilee line have been operated automatically; prior to this, trains were driven manually on the whole line, including those with Peds (Platform Edge Doors). Of course Peds only exist at the sub-surface stations on the extension to the Jubilee line as their primary purpose is air-flow, not stopping people ending up on the tracks.

 

[First class]

Possibly being installed at Liverpool Central later next year.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/live...talled-to-protect-passengers-100252-29580428/

 

[Mutant Lemming]

Didn't Moscow introduce them back in the 1930's ?