Lower Fare Rises for Wales?

[oglord]

England is not a single region, it contains nine different regions.

It is important to understand the meaning of the word "region". As I've already pointed out it just means a part of something larger, so yes, Cornwall is a region of the UK, "South West" is a region of the UK, "England" is a region of the UK, "England and Wales" is a region of the UK and Great Britain is a region of the UK. Don't get caught up in a statutory definition which only applies in certain contexts.

 

[Zoe]

Like wise Scotland is not a single region, and indeed has own different regions.

Scotland is a considered to be a single region by the EUhttp://www.europe.org.uk/regions/
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It is important to understand the meaning of the word "region". As I've already pointed out it just means a part of something larger, so yes, Cornwall is a region of the UK, "South West" is a region of the UK, "England" is a region of the UK, "England and Wales" is a region of the UK and Great Britain is a region of the UK. Don't get caught up in a statutory definition which only applies in certain contexts.

I refer to the areas of the UK considered to be regions by the EU. Had the English regions agreed to the devolution that they were going to be offered then all of these regions would likely have their own government now.

 

[Greenback]

All that proves is how bureaucratic and arbitrary the EU can be!

 

[krus_aragon]

Welsh is a development of the original language spoken by many peoples of these islands. It is related to Cornish, Breton and Gaelic, but has developed and evolved as all language does.

I don't think Welsh was spoken by all the inhabitants - there were Viking settlements, Irish settlements and Saxon settlements within what we now think of as Wales.

I was thinking of the 600s to 800s (or so), before Norsemen really came on the scene. Even with some cross-polination from Irish, Saxons, and possibly French, it was largely speaking its own unique language (discounting Cornish and Cumbric). My point is that the lasting influence of that language is what kept the idea of Wales intact even when it was no longer an independent country.

To quote the banner of the paper in my hand (Y Cymro): Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon - A nation without a language is a nation without a heart

 

[Greenback]

I was thinking of the 600s to 800s (or so), before Norsemen really came on the scene. Even with some cross-polination from Irish, Saxons, and possibly French, it was largely speaking its own unique language (discounting Cornish and Cumbric). My point is that the lasting influence of that language is what kept the idea of Wales intact even when it was no longer an independent country.

To quote the banner of the paper in my hand (Y Cymro): Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon - A nation without a language is a nation without a heart

Oh right, I was thinking more of the time the Normans came in, much later on!

 

[IanXC]

All that proves is how bureaucratic and arbitrary the EU can be!

The EU only requires that national governments agree various size statistical areas, national governments decide what they are. The UK government picked the old (I think) civil defence areas, and later merged Merseyside and North West.

 

[Butts]

All that proves is how bureaucratic and arbitrary the EU can be!

No one objects to Scotland being referred to as a region of the UK by the EU-it's when it's inferred/referred to being a "region of England".

In the same context poor old Cymru barely achieves "County Status"