Calculating the cost of speculative open access operator projects that are unlikely to gain approval

[Chester1]

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Wrexham, Shropshire & Midlands Railway updates

An application for the "Wrexham, Shropshire & Midlands Railway" (no connection to the former Arriva company) has appeared online for a service calling at Wrexham General, Gobowen, Shrewsbury, Telford Central, Wolverhampton, Darlaston, Walsall, Coleshill Parkway, Nuneaton, Milton Keynes (set down...

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Are these applications expensive to make? The second application seems to have been made on the off chance it would be approved rather than because approval was likely. It is really hard to see how they thought they would get the paths.

 

[XCTurbostar]

Are these applications expensive to make? The second application seems to have been made on the off chance it would be approved rather than because approval wad likely. It is really hard to see how they thought they would get the paths.

The applications are free to submit to the ORR but a consultation needs to take place before as well as requiring a operator license, so in essence, all of the costs are on the requestor.

 

[The Planner]

The applications are free to submit to the ORR but a consultation needs to take place before as well as requiring a operator license, so in essence, all of the costs are on the requestor.

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Separately:
Would there be any merit in LUMO requesting TAC for Wrexham services and joining/dividing at Nuneaton?

There is a cost to NR too, as they have to appraise the bids.

 

[Chester1]

The applications are free to submit to the ORR but a consultation needs to take place before as well as requiring a operator license, so in essence, all of the costs are on the requestor.

There must be some cost preparing all the information etc. Clearly cheap enough for them to apply for something they knew was likely to fail.

 

[The Planner]

There must be some cost preparing all the information etc. Clearly cheap enough for them to apply for something they knew was likely to fail.

Some of the bidders will contract the timetabling out to a consultant, that isn't cheap.