Thameslink: "formed of" Vs "which has"

[JohnRegular]

Making announcements using language that is clearer to more people is surely a good thing.
If you think the railway - a public service where providing clear information is very important - should be using terminology that is harder for everyday people to understand, I have to disagree.
'Alight' and 'terminates' are borderline - they can be more concise but 'leave (the train)' and '(the train) finishes its journey' are probably clearer to the average person.
The example given in the original post is both shorter, and clearer for most people. Thumbs up!

 

[bramling]

Making announcements using language that is clearer to more people is surely a good thing.
If you think the railway - a public service where providing clear information is very important - should be using terminology that is harder for everyday people to understand, I have to disagree.
'Alight' and 'terminates' are borderline - they can be more concise but 'leave (the train)' and '(the train) finishes its journey' are probably clearer to the average person.
The example given in the original post is both shorter, and clearer for most people. Thumbs up!

Why can’t people learn the words? It really isn’t difficult.

You have somewhat made a case for using these more sophisticated words, namely that they exist because they are more concise than the alternatives you propose. For those majority of people who actually bother paying attention to their surroundings, this *is* clearer.

I first heard the term “terminates at” when I was less than 10, and it wasn’t hard to grasp.

 

[Horizon22]

Why can’t people learn the words? It really isn’t difficult.

You have somewhat made a case for using these more sophisticated words, namely that they exist because they are more concise than the alternatives you propose. For those majority of people who actually bother paying attention to their surroundings, this *is* clearer.

I first heard the term “terminates at” when I was less than 10, and it wasn’t hard to grasp.

As I mentioned upthread, there is a whole campaign to use "Plain English" especially when it comes to public services and for announcements to be as clear as possible - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_English_Campaign

I still hear "all change" and "terminates" a lot though.

 

[bramling]

As I mentioned upthread, there is a whole campaign to use "Plain English" especially when it comes to public services and for announcements to be as clear as possible - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_English_Campaign

I still hear "all change" and "terminates" a lot though.

The whole thing is so much more nuanced than that.

As far as I’m concerned, jargon is using internal railway language. So you wouldn’t announce to someone that a train has an encoder fault. But advising that there’s a “defect” with the train *is* plain language.

Using more sophisticated language might actually educate a few people, which must surely be a good thing.

I will certainly always use words like “defect” when speaking to people, and if they can’t work out what it means then as far as I’m concerned perhaps it’s better if they didn’t progress beyond their front door in the morning.

 

[Horizon22]

The whole thing is so much more nuanced than that.

As far as I’m concerned, jargon is using internal railway language. So you wouldn’t announce to someone that a train has an encoder fault. But advising that there’s a “defect” with the train *is* plain language.

Using more sophisticated language might actually educate a few people, which must surely be a good thing.

I will certainly always use words like “defect” when speaking to people, and if they can’t work out what it means then as far as I’m concerned perhaps it’s better if they didn’t progress beyond their front door in the morning.

Using your example that would normally be referred to as a "train fault"/ "fault on a train" externally.