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GWR: 16-25 Railcard used to purchase tickets for partner – potential prosecution?

Raguragie

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Hello, I would really appreciate some guidance on this matter.

I am an international student based in London and hold a valid 16–25 Railcard. I originally purchased the Railcard for my own travel, as I regularly travel to Bristol to visit my partner.

Recently, however, I have also purchased train tickets for my partner to travel from Bristol to London, as I have been busy and therefore he has been travelling to me instead. He has also been experiencing financial difficulties recently (medical related), so I was trying to help with his travel. I purchased three sets of tickets for him (including the corresponding returns) through the TrainPal app. I had genuinely forgotten about the Railcard when purchasing these tickets. Each time, I simply bought tickets without giving it much thought. There were no issues with the previous journeys.

Last week, however, a GWR inspector at Bristol Temple Meads asked my partner to show his Railcard. He contacted me, and I sent him a screenshot of my Railcard from the TrainPal app, which he showed to the inspector. The inspector explained that my Railcard could not be used to purchase discounted tickets for another person. Nevertheless, he allowed my partner through the barriers and onto the train.

When my partner arrived at London Paddington, another GWR inspector stopped him at the exit barriers and carried out further checks. On this occasion, the inspector took my partner's details, including his name, email address and telephone number. When I arrived at the platform, the inspector also spoke to me and explained that I was not permitted to use my Railcard in this way. I apologised and explained that it had been a genuine mistake and that I had not intended to evade payment or obtain a discount fraudulently and I was ready to pay any fines right there and then.

All of my own journeys made using this Railcard have been for the purpose of travelling between London and Bristol to visit my partner. I do not use the Railcard for any other journeys or destinations. The Railcard had genuinely been purchased for my own travel, and I had used it when purchasing my partner's tickets without appreciating that this was not permitted. I fully understand now that I should not have used my Railcard for his tickets and that he should have had his own Railcard or the tickets should have been purchased without the 1/3 discount.

The inspector also took pictures of my Railcard and of the previous three journeys purchased through my TrainPal account (most of which were my own travels from London to Bristol). I became quite concerned when the inspector mentioned the possibility of "fraud", although he subsequently told me not to worry too much and said that it would be treated as a "civil matter" and that he wasn't going to take a statement or do any interviews with my partner. His overall manner was calm, and at the end of the conversation he said that my partner would receive an email.

I am now quite anxious about what may happen next and how far this could potentially escalate after reading too much into other similar posts... I appreciate that I made a silly mistake and accept that the Railcard terms were not followed, but there was no intention to defraud GWR or evade the correct fare.

I would be very grateful for any advice from those familiar with GWR prosecutions and disputes, particularly regarding what is likely to happen next and whether this is likely to remain a civil matter or could potentially result in a prosecution. I would also be grateful to know how long it would normally take for GWR to contact my partner, and whether this would usually be by email or post, given that the inspector did not ask him for or record his postal address. Additionally, as the inspector took photographs of my Railcard and previous journeys purchased through my TrainPal account, I would be interested to know whether I should expect to be contacted separately, or whether any correspondence would normally be directed only to my partner.

Thank you in advance for any help!
 
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Others will be along shortly to give detailed advice, but my first thought was - how old is your partner?

If they are eligible for a railcard, it might be a good idea for them to purchase one now.
 

Raguragie

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Others will be along shortly to give detailed advice, but my first thought was - how old is your partner?

If they are eligible for a railcard, it might be a good idea for them to purchase one now.
Hello, thank you for your message.

My partner is 24. I have already got him a valid Railcard for his future travels.
 
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he subsequently told me not to worry too much and said that it would be treated as a "civil matter"

This doesn’t sit right with me - how can they say this? GWR often threaten criminal prosecutions. Sounds like staff trying to down-play the potential consequences of a situation to make cooperation/giving details more likely.
 

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This doesn’t sit right with me - how can they say this? GWR often threaten criminal prosecutions. Sounds like staff trying to down-play the potential consequences of a situation to make cooperation/giving details more likely.
Thank you for raising this. Just to clarify, the inspector said this after my partner had already provided all of the details he was asked for and after the inspector had taken the photographs of my Railcard and the previous tickets/journeys that he wanted to record. To be honest the overall impression I got from the inspector at the time was that he was trying to reassure us. This probably doesn't mean that GWR has ruled out any further action, and I certainly don't want to read more into the comment than I should hh.
 

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This doesn’t sit right with me - how can they say this? GWR often threaten criminal prosecutions. Sounds like staff trying to down-play the potential consequences of a situation to make cooperation/giving details more likely.
Yes, this will be frontline staff lying to avoid conflict.

Whatever action is taken won't be up to the frontline staff directly.
 

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This doesn’t sit right with me - how can they say this? GWR often threaten criminal prosecutions.
I'm not sure that they do frequently threaten criminal prosecutions. It's not consistent with their revenue protection policy (https://www.gwr.com/-/media/gwr-sc-...gwr-revenue-protection-policy-august-2026.pdf) which on page 12 says (among other things)
What could happen if you do not pay your fare
(...)
We’ll do our best to settle out of court.
Prosecution can have serious consequences on your personal and professional life. So, if you
don’t pay your fare, we will do everything we can to avoid taking you to court.
We will send you an offer to settle out of court, asking you to pay an amount to cover your
fare and our costs.

There's certainly no promise that they won't prosecute - but from what we see on this forum, GWR see prosecution as very much a last resort. My expectation would be that this case will be settled out of court, as long as the OP co-operates with GWR.
 
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I'm not sure that they do frequently threaten criminal prosecutions. It's not consistent with their revenue protection policy (https://www.gwr.com/-/media/gwr-sc-...gwr-revenue-protection-policy-august-2026.pdf) which on page 12 says (among other things)


There's certainly no promise that they won't prosecute - but from what we see on this forum, GWR see prosecution as very much a last resort. My expectation would be that this case will be settled out of court, as long as the OP co-operates with GWR.
Oh for sure they threaten, they set it out as an option, but often offer a settlement.
 

MarlowDonkey

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Oh for sure they threaten, they set it out as an option, but often offer a settlement.
It's not an offence to buy a ticket with a Railcard discount for a third party. What is the offence is the third party using the ticket without being in possession of the relevant card.
 

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This doesn’t sit right with me - how can they say this? GWR often threaten criminal prosecutions. Sounds like staff trying to down-play the potential consequences of a situation to make cooperation/giving details more likely.
To be fair GWRs written policy on this which is available to see actively states that they seek to avoid prosecution where they can. It may be the Inspector was seeking to both warn of the worst case scenario (which probably helps to try and ensure people take things seriously) whilst perhaps also seeking to re-assure it could be resolved.

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Hello, I would really appreciate some guidance on this matter.

I am an international student based in London and hold a valid 16–25 Railcard. I originally purchased the Railcard for my own travel, as I regularly travel to Bristol to visit my partner.

Recently, however, I have also purchased train tickets for my partner to travel from Bristol to London, as I have been busy and therefore he has been travelling to me instead. He has also been experiencing financial difficulties recently (medical related), so I was trying to help with his travel. I purchased three sets of tickets for him (including the corresponding returns) through the TrainPal app. I had genuinely forgotten about the Railcard when purchasing these tickets. Each time, I simply bought tickets without giving it much thought. There were no issues with the previous journeys.

Last week, however, a GWR inspector at Bristol Temple Meads asked my partner to show his Railcard. He contacted me, and I sent him a screenshot of my Railcard from the TrainPal app, which he showed to the inspector. The inspector explained that my Railcard could not be used to purchase discounted tickets for another person. Nevertheless, he allowed my partner through the barriers and onto the train.

When my partner arrived at London Paddington, another GWR inspector stopped him at the exit barriers and carried out further checks. On this occasion, the inspector took my partner's details, including his name, email address and telephone number. When I arrived at the platform, the inspector also spoke to me and explained that I was not permitted to use my Railcard in this way. I apologised and explained that it had been a genuine mistake and that I had not intended to evade payment or obtain a discount fraudulently and I was ready to pay any fines right there and then.

All of my own journeys made using this Railcard have been for the purpose of travelling between London and Bristol to visit my partner. I do not use the Railcard for any other journeys or destinations. The Railcard had genuinely been purchased for my own travel, and I had used it when purchasing my partner's tickets without appreciating that this was not permitted. I fully understand now that I should not have used my Railcard for his tickets and that he should have had his own Railcard or the tickets should have been purchased without the 1/3 discount.

The inspector also took pictures of my Railcard and of the previous three journeys purchased through my TrainPal account (most of which were my own travels from London to Bristol). I became quite concerned when the inspector mentioned the possibility of "fraud", although he subsequently told me not to worry too much and said that it would be treated as a "civil matter" and that he wasn't going to take a statement or do any interviews with my partner. His overall manner was calm, and at the end of the conversation he said that my partner would receive an email.

I am now quite anxious about what may happen next and how far this could potentially escalate after reading too much into other similar posts... I appreciate that I made a silly mistake and accept that the Railcard terms were not followed, but there was no intention to defraud GWR or evade the correct fare.

I would be very grateful for any advice from those familiar with GWR prosecutions and disputes, particularly regarding what is likely to happen next and whether this is likely to remain a civil matter or could potentially result in a prosecution. I would also be grateful to know how long it would normally take for GWR to contact my partner, and whether this would usually be by email or post, given that the inspector did not ask him for or record his postal address. Additionally, as the inspector took photographs of my Railcard and previous journeys purchased through my TrainPal account, I would be interested to know whether I should expect to be contacted separately, or whether any correspondence would normally be directed only to my partner.

Thank you in advance for any help!

The general advice often given on this forum will help you know what to expect and how to deal with it - and hopefully helps answer your questions towards the end of your post.

Have a read of the GWR Revenue Protection policy pdf linked above to help you know what to expect

Also have a good read of the T&Cs attached to the Railcard just to be sure you know when you can correctly use it - ask here if anything unclear as people will happily clarify anything, and make a diary note of the expiry date so you don't forget to renew it.

It may be 6 to 8 weeks or maybe more before your partner hears from GWR about this and perhaps the single most important thing is to ensure you can receive hard copy post at the address they will have (potentially taken from the ticket scan) for at least 7 months. So if there is a move of address i tis important to set up arrangements for post to be redirected (see Royal Mail website) - When you hear anything from them head back here for more specific advice.

Here is the general advice:

Firstly, a criminal offence was committed by travelling with an invalid ticket and railway companies are entitled to prosecute you in the Magistrates Court if they want to. The good news is they will normally offer an out of court settlement to people who co-operate with them and who haven't come to their attention before.

Next, what happens is the railway company will write to you. The letter will go to the address that you gave them / on any of your ID they checked so you need to be able to access hard copy post at that address as they often send things that way (but also check e-mail and spam). It is extremely important that you reply, and you'll only have a limited time to do so (often 14 days from the date on their communication).

When you receive the letter post a redacted copy of it in this thread, along with your draft reply and forum members will proof read it for you. You'll find lots of example letters you can use in this section of the forum but the reply basically needs to mention:

- That you are sorry for what has happened
- What you have learned from the incident and will not do this again
- That you are keen to settle the matter without the need for court action
- Offer to pay the outstanding fare and the railway company’s administrative costs in dealing with the matter

The railway will probably offer you an out of court settlement. Expect to have to pay the cost of the fare for the journey you made at the full Anytime rate with no credit given for the invalid ticket you purchased. In addition they will charge an admin fee, typically £150. They will also audit your online ticket purchase history and if this shows you've purchased other tickets that were not valid (eg railcard discounted tickets when you did not have a valid railcard, or tickets for only part of the journey, or tickets bought after boarding the train you travelled on ) they will probably factor the cost of these journeys into the settlement offer. Depending on how many journeys you've made over the period concerned this could end up being expensive.

Settlements usually have to be paid in full within a few days of them being offered so if money is tight you might want to think about how you will raise the sum required at short notice.
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On these questions:

1 - I would be very grateful for any advice from those familiar with GWR prosecutions and disputes, particularly regarding what is likely to happen next

see above

2 - and whether this is likely to remain a civil matter or could potentially result in a prosecution.

If they did take court action within 6 months it would be a criminal matter in the magistrates court - if they left it longer than that for court action it would be a civil court matter.
But in any case your objective is to prevent it going to court at all and achieving an out of court settlement which is usually possible, esp with advice from here

3 - I would also be grateful to know how long it would normally take for GWR to contact my partner,

See above - if you have not heard anything by 4 months time head back here for advice on whether it is worth chasing it up with GWR

4- and whether this would usually be by email or post, given that the inspector did not ask him for or record his postal address.

Could be any of these - so you have to keep an eye on all including spam

5- Additionally, as the inspector took photographs of my Railcard and previous journeys purchased through my TrainPal account, I would be interested to know whether I should expect to be contacted separately,
It's possible but unlikely I would think

6 - or whether any correspondence would normally be directed only to my partner.
That's what I would expect to happen
 
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Raguragie

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To be fair GWRs written policy on this which is available to see actively states that they seek to avoid prosecution where they can. It may be the Inspector was seeking to both warn of the worst case scenario (which probably helps to try and ensure people take things seriously) whilst perhaps also seeking to re-assure it could be resolved.

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==



The general advice often given on this forum will help you know what to expect and how to deal with it - and hopefully helps answer your questions towards the end of your post.

Have a read of the GWR Revenue Protection policy pdf linked above to help you know what to expect

Also have a good read of the T&Cs attached to the Railcard just to be sure you know when you can correctly use it - ask here if anything unclear as people will happily clarify anything, and make a diary note of the expiry date so you don't forget to renew it.

It may be 6 to 8 weeks or maybe more before your partner hears from GWR about this and perhaps the single most important thing is to ensure you can receive hard copy post at the address they will have (potentially taken from the ticket scan) for at least 7 months. So if there is a move of address i tis important to set up arrangements for post to be redirected (see Royal Mail website) - When you hear anything from them head back here for more specific advice.

Here is the general advice:

Firstly, a criminal offence was committed by travelling with an invalid ticket and railway companies are entitled to prosecute you in the Magistrates Court if they want to. The good news is they will normally offer an out of court settlement to people who co-operate with them and who haven't come to their attention before.

Next, what happens is the railway company will write to you. The letter will go to the address that you gave them / on any of your ID they checked so you need to be able to access hard copy post at that address as they often send things that way (but also check e-mail and spam). It is extremely important that you reply, and you'll only have a limited time to do so (often 14 days from the date on their communication).

When you receive the letter post a redacted copy of it in this thread, along with your draft reply and forum members will proof read it for you. You'll find lots of example letters you can use in this section of the forum but the reply basically needs to mention:

- That you are sorry for what has happened
- What you have learned from the incident and will not do this again
- That you are keen to settle the matter without the need for court action
- Offer to pay the outstanding fare and the railway company’s administrative costs in dealing with the matter

The railway will probably offer you an out of court settlement. Expect to have to pay the cost of the fare for the journey you made at the full Anytime rate with no credit given for the invalid ticket you purchased. In addition they will charge an admin fee, typically £150. They will also audit your online ticket purchase history and if this shows you've purchased other tickets that were not valid (eg railcard discounted tickets when you did not have a valid railcard, or tickets for only part of the journey, or tickets bought after boarding the train you travelled on ) they will probably factor the cost of these journeys into the settlement offer. Depending on how many journeys you've made over the period concerned this could end up being expensive.

Settlements usually have to be paid in full within a few days of them being offered so if money is tight you might want to think about how you will raise the sum required at short notice.
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On these questions:

1 - I would be very grateful for any advice from those familiar with GWR prosecutions and disputes, particularly regarding what is likely to happen next

see above

2 - and whether this is likely to remain a civil matter or could potentially result in a prosecution.

If they did take court action within 6 months it would be a criminal matter in the magistrates court - if they left it longer than that for court action it would be a civil court matter.
But in any case your objective is to prevent it going to court at all and achieving an out of court settlement which is usually possible, esp with advice from here

3 - I would also be grateful to know how long it would normally take for GWR to contact my partner,

See above - if you have not heard anything by 4 months time head back here for advice on whether it is worth chasing it up with GWR

4- and whether this would usually be by email or post, given that the inspector did not ask him for or record his postal address.

Could be any of these - so you have to keep an eye on all including spam

5- Additionally, as the inspector took photographs of my Railcard and previous journeys purchased through my TrainPal account, I would be interested to know whether I should expect to be contacted separately,
It's possible but unlikely I would think

6 - or whether any correspondence would normally be directed only to my partner.
That's what I would expect to happen
Thank you very much for your reply. I will update the forum when they send their initial mail.
 

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