I had this with something a few years ago (I can't recall what), so I emailed them and said that I was deaf (I'm not) so couldn't speak to someone on the blower. Sub cancelled straight away
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I'm gonna try this one next time I hit a brick wall with emails!I had this with something a few years ago (I can't recall what), so I emailed them and said that I was deaf (I'm not) so couldn't speak to someone on the blower. Sub cancelled straight away
75A
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Interesting to read that Mr Burnham is a Season Ticket Holder @ Everton F.C. So Manchester isn't quite his favourite place then.
Looks like there could be some big shakeups in social care in the pipeline.
www.bbc.co.uk
Andy Burnham proposes NHS-style social care system for England
The prime minister told the BBC that social care in England is "as unfair as American healthcare".
www.bbc.co.uk
brad465
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I still think assisted dying should be part of any social care plan. It doesn't matter how much one has to pay for it, in whatever form, for some death is preferable to a life of 24/7 care with no serious understanding of who one is or what's going on around them.
Nicholas Lewis
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Laudable but it will come at a huge cost and further undermine the family unit.Looks like there could be some big shakeups in social care in the pipeline.
Andy Burnham proposes NHS-style social care system for England
The prime minister told the BBC that social care in England is "as unfair as American healthcare".
Tetchytyke
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More tax on us Gen X and millennials to hand freebies out to the boomers who created this mess in the first place. It’s bad enough having to pay the pensions of people who retired at 60 when I won’t get to retire until 70.
No thanks.
The issue with social care in the UK funding, it is private equity cash grabbing.
brad465
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Depends, a lot councils are cash-strapped in part because of how much money they have to spend on social care. If they are relieved of this as a result of a dedicated fund, then a whole host of other issues get dealt with better that benefits all generations. Private equity though is an issue I agree.
Yes, I do worry that it will be a case of tax the working population to pay for a generation of people that had to pay no such tax. Especially given the propensity of the Tories to refer to taxes on inheriting large amounts of money in misleading an inaccurate manners such as calling them "death taxes". I'm open to the idea of it, certainly, and know of people that have had a very diffciult time with their family members in their old age, but we can't pretend that there are easy answers.
I don't think that issue is just limited to social care funding. I don't know if a "National Care Service" is still on the cards, but I'd certainly be worried that it could end up as a load of greedy private companies in the trench coat of nationalisation.
Having sold her home, my mum's care home is gradually burning through any inheritance that might have come to me and my sibling.
And that's fine. I don't see why the state should pay given she has the money...
If it did pay, it would just be subsidising my sibling and I getting an unearned windfall from inheritance.
Now, my sibling and I are both pretty solvent which may skew my perspective. But subsiding inheritors is not an obvious use of public money.
And that's fine. I don't see why the state should pay given she has the money...
If it did pay, it would just be subsidising my sibling and I getting an unearned windfall from inheritance.
Now, my sibling and I are both pretty solvent which may skew my perspective. But subsiding inheritors is not an obvious use of public money.
Nicholas Lewis
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Us late boomers are having wait as well to receive state pension!! Anyhow despite that I do support our generation having to pay NI as well as income tax for say another 5-10yrs after pensionable age to reflect the improvements in longevity that has been achieved partly through the NHS.
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The current system is completely untenable in my view.
Scotland seems to have achieved something rather better. If probably not perfect.
contrex
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"Laudable" was what my dad called something that I liked, that he didn't, but couldn't think of a particularly good reason for not liking. What is this 'family unit' of which you speak?
Nicholas Lewis
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Families taking responsibility for each other thats is very prevalent in other societies like Japan and Italy
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People without adequate skills giving up productive work in the economy to care for people with complex needs for free.
contrex
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But this country is not Japan or Italy. And this is the twenty-first century. Will you wipe your grandpa's backside?
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Families in this context often means women I suspect. Wives, daughters, daughter in laws etc.
Another handout for house-builders with a new George Osborne style help-to-buy scheme. He even was honest and mentioned the builders in one of the announcements.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...new-scheme-for-first-time-home-buyers-england
Red Tories...got to get that quick-and-easy GDP bump!
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...new-scheme-for-first-time-home-buyers-england
Red Tories...got to get that quick-and-easy GDP bump!
Yet wasn't the George Osborne style help-to-buy scheme just an extension of one that had been introduced a few years earlier? The one introduced by Labour.....
Maybe, my memory is failing. Not quite a gotcha though when I commented "Red Tories", calling them all the same
It's a bad scheme whoever implements it
brad465
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Property developers are huge political donors and will donate hefty sums to whichever party is set to be in government. If Reform UK ever got in they would be bankrolled by them too (especially given Jenrick's shady record with Richard Desmond). This scheme is one of the results. The way to address this is to outright ban/severely cap all political donations.
It is a shame that the announcement wasn't about the most important way that has been shown to work to make housing more affordable - building social housing.Maybe, my memory is failing. Not quite a gotcha though when I commented "Red Tories", calling them all the same
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scheme before 2013 was FirstBuy which apparently started in 2011
So coalition schemes.
Not sure there was any equivalent pre 2010.
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I would assume an equity loan from govt means the taxpayer gets repaid the loan at an equity stake so if house prices are above inflation the taxpayer gets a stake in that.
Doesn’t necessarily make it a good thing though.
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contrex
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Precisely. These days more and more are not standing for it. Often, I gather, in the face of great pressure to conform from Social Services departments.
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Indeed and Maybe the case. Probably is.
Social Services only become involved in paying for it if the person in need has less than c£23 k in all assets of course.
But also such women may themselves need to work in paid employment to bring enough money in to sustain existing direct family commitments.
Orientalist myth in Japan's case. As a proportion of elderly population, more elderly people are in care homes in Japan. Over a million people. Here it's 350K or so.