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Battery boost for grid feeders?

MarkyT

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The use of batteries in general is new enough that there will be plenty of issues with that, before adding geolocation and line voltage based charging systems.

Keeping it simple for the first application seems wise to me.
I agree. In-motion charging might be introduced later, perhaps with a package of targeted supply-strengthening measures on the long term DC parts of the network. That might be a way to improve utilisation of the fleet in future as passenger numbers increase, if shorter terminal layovers could be tolerated.

In the meantime, it's a great benefit to be able to store braking energy. While I'm sure older DART units can inject regen braking current back into the supply line, that only works if the local line is receptive, with other train loads or grid-exporting substations able, at that precise moment, to use the energy. If the line is not receptive, trains must burn off the braking energy in resistor banks, if equipped, or incur friction brake wear instead. Batteries provide another local destination for that energy, where it can be used later.

A battery has its own receptivity constraint, its charge capacity. In planning for battery operations, a train leaving a branch terminus at high altitude for example, facing a ten-mile descent to the coast, would ideally not leave with a full charge. A custom charging plan for the duty could take into account the likely energy recoverable from normal regen braking on that major gradient, with the twin aims of maximising energy recovery and minimising friction brake wear.
 
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Its not the first global application though. Japan has been running BEMUs for nearly a decade and several European countries have BEMUs operating rural service groups. Presumably they left it to Alstom to optimise the most efficient system design
It might not be the first ever use of the technology, but it hasn't been used before in the UK or Ireland in this kind of longish distance heavy rail application.

If it were a simple matter because they're done it elsewhere, then the 777s would have worked out of the box.

Also, I've no idea how well it works in other places - we've been persevering with unsatisfactory trains for ages, and I'm sure other railways do too, so the fact that they exist isn't the same as them working. Which is not to say that they're not working well...

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Precisely.

And the GB rail network is more appropriate for battery use than most, with its relatively low level of electrification and restricted loading gauge so that just about every overbridge on a route needs rebuilding. We should be global leaders in BEMU use, not ten years behind the curve
IMO the UK isn't that great in a lot of cases because we don't have enough electrification. There are some areas where it'll work well, but we're having to come up with systems like West Ealing because we don't have enough on-wires running.

The TPE application will be a good case because the unelectrified sections are relatively short in terms of the total route they'll operate, but to run batteries for anything south west of Birmingham will need substantial charging infrastructure to be provided.
 
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It might not be the first ever use of the technology, but it hasn't been used before in the UK or Ireland in this kind of longish distance heavy rail application.
Schleswig-Holstein Lander (Germany) has 55 two-car Stadler Flirt Akku Battery Electric Multiple Units (BEMUs) in use across the state since 2024. They run upto 50km off the wires which is longer than anything DART are trying to achieve. They charge off the existing OLE system as well as some additional station island overheads. Several other Lander are deploying them as well although this remains biggest deployment.

So technology proven but not a direct transfer to UK due to our loading gauge but im sure Stadler could offer a 755 variant with a battery pack vice the diesel pack vehicle.

Like ETCS the UK always has to go back to first principles and we wonder why these projects cost so much and wider deployment becomes unaffordable.
 

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