WCR/RTC Railtour locomotives, fleet updates and movements

[CDM Transport]

Is Sundays Waverley going to be a 37? TIA

 

[HertiageFan]

47851 and 47804 top and tailed on today’s Waverley

 

[Isle of Mull]

The West Somerset Steam Express is now to be hauled by class 47s

 

[802020]

The West Somerset Steam Express is now to be hauled by class 47s

Why?

 

[37069]

Why?

No steam available - 34028 was not rostered for this one.

 

[Gunslinger]

What was originally planned? Presumably not Tangmere. Even RTC don't market a 'West Somerset Steam Express' without some idea what availability was likely to be.

 

[802020]

What was originally planned? Presumably not Tangmere. Even RTC don't market a 'West Somerset Steam Express' without some idea what availability was likely to be.

Precisely. No steam ban anymore.

 

[Isle of Mull]

What was originally planned? Presumably not Tangmere. Even RTC don't market a 'West Somerset Steam Express' without some idea what availability was likely to be.

I would have thought maybe a black 5 or a vacuum braked loco, provided the mk1s were back

 

[Wyrleybart]

I would have thought maybe a black 5 or a vacuum braked loco, provided the mk1s were back

Not sure WCR have any vacuum braked stock cleared for public passenger compliance, but there is a rumour that a Mk1 FO has been spotted at Carnforth with "Tyseley like" CDL indicators. Perhaps WCR have at long last realised they can spend some money to earn money.

AIUI Ian Riley has de-airbraked 45212 and handed it back to the K&WVR for a life of preservation, so only has 44871 and 45407 available this year, whilst 45163 undergoes its rebuild.

So WCR's air brake fleet is "Tangmere" and 34028 on hire.

 

[Isle of Mull]

Not sure WCR have any vacuum braked stock cleared for public passenger compliance, but there is a rumour that a Mk1 FO has been spotted at Carnforth with "Tyseley like" CDL indicators. Perhaps WCR have at long last realised they can spend some money to earn money.

AIUI Ian Riley has de-airbraked 45212 and handed it back to the K&WVR for a life of preservation, so only has 44871 and 45407 available this year, whilst 45163 undergoes its rebuild.

So WCR's air brake fleet is "Tangmere" and 34028 on hire.

I do hope mk1s are at least back for next year so the crisis can end

 

[Wyrleybart]

I do hope mk1s are at least back for next year so the crisis can end

Not sure I would call it a crisis. Think it is just a case of stubbornness personally. The authorities demand standards when carrying fare paying passengers, and other charter operators comply.

I personally wouldn't book a seat on a steam hauled charter train if I had to ride in a Mk2 air con

 

[802020]

Not sure WCR have any vacuum braked stock cleared for public passenger compliance, but there is a rumour that a Mk1 FO has been spotted at Carnforth with "Tyseley like" CDL indicators. Perhaps WCR have at long last realised they can spend some money to earn money.

AIUI Ian Riley has de-airbraked 45212 and handed it back to the K&WVR for a life of preservation, so only has 44871 and 45407 available this year, whilst 45163 undergoes its rebuild.

So WCR's air brake fleet is "Tangmere" and 34028 on hire.

And so based off that if 34028 “wasn’t rostered for this tour” how come it wasn’t changed to diesel hauled weeks, even months ago?

 

[Isle of Mull]

I personally wouldn't book a seat on a steam hauled charter train if I had to ride in a Mk2 air con

Nor would I

 

[Gunslinger]

And so based off that if 34028 “wasn’t rostered for this tour” how come it wasn’t changed to diesel hauled weeks, even months ago?

With both the Black 5's committed in Scotland and 45212 retired from main line running and returned to the KWVR, what was the plan? Incidentally, with the air braking kit and other main line paraphernalia removed from 45212, how big a job would it be to transfer this to another loco?

 

[Forty29]

According to BLS gen site 47804 is to attend SVR autumn diesel gala!

 

[Iskra]

Does anyone know what’s working the Northern Belle steam section today? Is it Tangmere or diesel?

 

[47286Dan]

Saturdays tours

47237 AWCA PADDINGTN 731Z251A19 U * MINEHEADW N
47848 AWCA PADDINGTN 731Z251A19 U * MINEHEADW N
Stock
3397 3364 80042 3345 3340 3325 6724 5929 9526

47802 AWCA CREWE 421Z191619 U * FOWEY DKS N
47812 AWCA CREWE 421Z191619 U * FOWEY DKS N
Stock
3334 3336 1961 3386 3417 3278 1200 6176 6067 9507

57314 AWCA TELFORD C 641Z731B19 U * CARLISLE N
57601 AWCA TELFORD C 641Z731B19 U * CARLISLE N
Stock
10734 10729 17167 325 3313 3275 3247 3267 1953 3273 3174

Dan

 

[Wyrleybart]

With both the Black 5's committed in Scotland and 45212 retired from main line running and returned to the KWVR, what was the plan? Incidentally, with the air braking kit and other main line paraphernalia removed from 45212, how big a job would it be to transfer this to another loco?

Perhaps already being fitted to 45163 as it's overhaul progresses. I imagine there is plenty of work to do on it but not difficult stuff - just lots of piping runs along the loco and tender, fittings and all the cab equipment. There will be OTDR and TPWS as well as the brake equipment, but asll that would be going on 45163 anyway.

There are other beauties in Ian Riley's works to consider though. I am assuming 34007 and at least one of the MNs will be fitted with air brakes for main line work.

 

[yorkshirerail]

34067 “Tangmere” and 48151 working 5M50 and 5M51 Carnforth to Hellifield and back today

 

[Isle of Mull]

34067 “Tangmere” and 48151 working 5M50 and 5M51 Carnforth to Hellifield and back today

Testing for 48151, maybe into service?

 

[37069]

Testing for 48151, maybe into service?

Only if either 48151 has an air pump fitted, or enough Mk. 1s at 10A have now had CDL fitted.

 

[Wyrleybart]

Only if either 48151 has an air pump fitted, or enough Mk. 1s at 10A have now had CDL fitted.

Not necessarily "37069". Carnforth have outshopped 45110 reasonably recently without air, and I think 44932 similarly prior to that. I am concluding that the owner doesn't like air on his own fleet.

 

[HertiageFan]

Only if either 48151 has an air pump fitted, or enough Mk. 1s at 10A have now had CDL fitted.

It may visit heritage railways if it has no air pump fitted

 

[Wyrleybart]

It may visit heritage railways if it has no air pump fitted

And could even work private charters on the mainline so long as the passengers aren't members of the public - thinking of the Wedding train to Edinburgh with a Jube

 

[37069]

My comment related to "into service". It will only really be back in service once it has something to haul other than its support coach.

44932 was last outshopped in 2022, before the CDL deadline.

The formation today was 48151 (facing towards Hellifield), support coach 80217, 34067 (facing towards Carnforth).

 

[Isle of Mull]

First 2027 tours announced, hopefully mk1s feature this year.

 

[Iskra]

Is it Tangmere on the Lune Rivers Trust tour today?

 

[47286Dan]

Is it Tangmere on the Lune Rivers Trust tour today?

Yes @Iskra

98767 AWCS CARNFORTH 111Z831B26 U * YORK N
47815 AWCA CARNFORTH 111Z831B26 U * YORK N

Dan

 

[Iskra]

I managed to catch Tangmere & Tornado passing at Skipton

 

[cats_five]

I managed to catch Tangmere & Tornado passing at Skipton

Lucky! Thought Tangmere sounded uneven.