Class 175s to GWR

[TastyMaltesers]

Was 010 not destined to become a spares donor?

 

[REVUpminster]

I think more than one train has been cannibalised. GWR say they have 15 175s but all the figures say 16 as does the Train database.

They only require 19 (the 19 769s) to run a full service and release the 158s. The other 7 are spares or local enhancements. 3+2 trains, 2+2.

Cannot see any 175s today.

 

[XFeed]

I believe 010 never actually went to Wolverton, and instead came down directly from Ely hauled by a couple of 37s.

From what I heard a few months ago it had still been untouched, not sure if that has changed now though?

I`ve just looked on BillStampys list and you are correct, arrived Jan 26.

Why have a unit at a depot and not carry out some work on it even if only sporadic ?

 

[3RDGEN]

They only require 19 (the 19 769s) to run a full service and release the 158s.

There's only 18 ex GWR 769/9's remaining so might cover 9 or 10 diagrams a day if you base it on Northern's experience.

 

[REVUpminster]

The King in the North has authorised 29 new battery/electric 5 car trains to overcome severe overcrowding on Transpennine. If this releases 29 of 51 185s built for climbing gradients to replace the 150s (20 not all available) and 158s (18 only 5 of which are 3 car in use in the southwest) and with 26 175s eventually will cover all the diagrams.

And no pesky infrastructure costs. It would be too tempting for the Dft.

I bet the first battery electrics on GWR end up at Reading where they can probably justify the costs.

 

[RPI]

The King in the North has authorised 29 new battery/electric 5 car trains to overcome severe overcrowding on Transpennine. If this releases 29 of 51 185s built for climbing gradients to replace the 150s (20 not all available) and 158s (18 only 5 of which are 3 car in use in the southwest) and with 26 175s eventually will cover all the diagrams.

And no pesky infrastructure costs. It would be too tempting for the Dft.

I bet the first battery electrics on GWR end up at Reading where they can probably justify the costs.

185's wouldn't be much good for the West, they're much heavier than anything we currently have and they guzzle fuel.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

And it's a 2034 introduction... it was a 2022 introduction for the 197s, 2023 withdrawal for the 175s from TfW, and it's currently 2026 and GWR are barely getting one train out each day...

So we'd be looking at the trains being 30 years old before squadron service anyway, and that's before remembering they're inefficient fuel guzzlers and very heavy.

 

[REVUpminster]

And it's a 2034 introduction... it was a 2022 introduction for the 197s, 2023 withdrawal for the 175s from TfW, and it's currently 2026 and GWR are barely getting one train out each day...

So we'd be looking at the trains being 30 years old before squadron service anyway, and that's before remembering they're inefficient fuel guzzlers and very heavy.

They might be heavy but so are battery trains. They have had modifications regarding fuel use.

I wonder what the weight of a GWR battery 230 is compared to a 150 and a 150 becomes lighter as it uses fuel.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

They might be heavy but so are battery trains. They have had modifications regarding fuel use.

I wonder what the weight of a GWR battery 230 is compared to a 150 and a 150 becomes lighter as it uses fuel.

Okay fine, but my point was more about the age.

 

[REVUpminster]

Okay fine, but my point was more about the age.

Like the 175, the 185 would be a stop gap. Is the Southwest first in line for new trains or is it the southeast? I don't think will see a Greater Anglia fleet replacement down here. There's plenty of trains stored at Long Marston including GWR 769s that are of no use here.