And as has been discussed, diversionary use does not usually make for a strong business case.
I suspect they run the numbers, but I doubt that changing the existing diesel bi modes into battery bi modes will work out favourably.
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Battery Conversion of Existing Stock
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I suspect they run the numbers, but I doubt that changing the existing diesel bi modes into battery bi modes will work out favourably.
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Exactly, so there won’t be a case spending money on eliminating the ‘off wire’ capability of the 802s by removing the engines.
No, leaving them as they are is by far the most likely outcome.
Would be interesting to see what a replacement of the 802s would be (I'd advocate for straight electrics), but that's a different question.
Class15
Established Member
If this happens I think that would be me done with using our railways, what a retrograde step. Never ever should that happen.
Has somebody got a date for when Standedge tunnel might be wired then?
Bletchleyite
Veteran Member
Is not part of the point of batteries that they might be able to leave out complicated bits like that?
Hopefully not on trunk routes. Full wiring York to Manchester is what TRU is delivering.
pokemonsuper9
Established Member
Is being done as part of TRU, not sure of the exact timeline but Stalybridge - Huddersfield will be one of the last sections.
Someone better tell Northern then since they're in the process of producing pure EMUs for operation over the Transpennine route.
stevieinselby
Established Member
Once the Transpennine upgrade is complete, will there be the need for those regular diversions?
Bletchleyite
Veteran Member
It's good to provide them for shorter term engineering works and emergencies. The diesel abilities of the ECML 80x are very useful for such things. It also potentially reduces evacuation time in the event of a not-too-bad wires-down incident or a power outage - power off, pan removed, untangle things then drive it back to the nearest station at low speed, then you've got the passengers out of the way to spend time concentrating on getting the wires back up.
Somebody has (I don’t!)
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Yes, they have been used for as long as I can remember.
zwk500
Veteran Member
And perhaps more importantly for all the otherwise perfectly fine trains stuck in the isolated electrical section, as they don't need to wait for an OLE team to come out and reduce the isolation limits before they can start moving again.