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EMR Regional and Connect refurbishments

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In practice absolutely not, and if anything we need more units... :lol:
No point in having more units if all EMR is leave them sat broken on the depot. Same applies to SWR, in fairness!

What is notable is how far both EMR and SWR have fallen since Stagecoach left.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't 158889 technically finally going back home considering it came from what is now SWR in the first place due to East Midlands Trains (or whatever they were called back then) being short of units at the time.

Also with the refurbishments going on at the moment wouldn't it have took longer to refurbish 158889 if they had kept it considering it was the only unit with the original 158 seating in the fleet and also I'm sure there was talk of getting rid of the declassified first class section.
Depends what you call home. Salisbury has been the shortest time period it's been allocated to a depot. I think it spent about 15 years allocated to Heaton, 9 years at Salisbury and 11 years at Eastcroft.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't 158889 technically finally going back home considering it came from what is now SWR in the first place due to East Midlands Trains (or whatever they were called back then) being short of units at the time.
Not short of units. Was planned transfer for the extension of Matlock services to Newark.
I'm sure there was talk of getting rid of the declassified first class section.
Don't think this was ever talked about, same as somw 170 units with declassified first won't be being removed.
No point in having more units if all EMR is leave them sat broken on the depot. Same applies to SWR, in fairness!

What is notable is how far both EMR and SWR have fallen since Stagecoach left.
Quite. The state of maintenance, if you can call it that, is abysmal. There's some real basic defects that should be extremely easy to remedy but no one's interested in stocking equipment and spares.
 

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Not short of units. Was planned transfer for the extension of Matlock services to Newark.

Don't think this was ever talked about, same as somw 170 units with declassified first won't be being removed.

Quite. The state of maintenance, if you can call it that, is abysmal. There's some real basic defects that should be extremely easy to remedy but no one's interested in stocking equipment and spares.
What’s the last 170 out and in for refurb at thw moment
 

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I think that is the issue. I don't know if the refurbished units are also not breaking down as often. However losing a unit when we have daily short formations and a refurbishment program going on taking out a 158 and 170. That said in the Winter the 158 fleets demands will be reduced as the Skegness route won't need most services to be doubled up. Hopefully with the 170s going through the program as well they won't break down as often.

If they have spare units it would be great to see that franchise commitment met of hourly Lincoln - Grimsby (and Cleethorpes) some of those trains are very heavily loaded.
 

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For a civil servant sat at a computer EMR has more than enough trains. For people on the ground the reality is somewhat different.

Of course things would help if they could improve reliability. EmR seem to be hopeless when it comes to maintaining their fleet.
 

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For a civil servant sat at a computer EMR has more than enough trains. For people on the ground the reality is somewhat different.

Of course things would help if they could improve reliability. EmR seem to be hopeless when it comes to maintaining their fleet.
That’s the one thing I miss about EMT. Their fleet was run into the ground when they started, but they worked well with what they had; the drop in maintenance and condition of the stock under EMR is very noticeable in comparison.
 

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That’s the one thing I miss about EMT. Their fleet was run into the ground when they started, but they worked well with what they had; the drop in maintenance and condition of the stock under EMR is very noticeable in comparison.

Fully in agreement, the fleet may have been old under EMT, but it was always well turned out.
 

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Bit further ahead than that. 501-511 are done and 512 is the one currently being done.
Haha thanks unfortunately my memories of last unit workings arent as accurate as I thought. I know I had 514 and 513 this week and they weren't done but maybe I've not had 510 or 511 for a while. Either that or they've been broke :lol:
 

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Mission Accomplished........ I finally caught up with the One and Only refurbished 360 unit.



And there as been movement of the other Unit that was supposed to of been refurbished, the elusive 107.

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Mission Accomplished........ I finally caught up with the One and Only refurbished 360 unit.



And there as been movement of the other Unit that was supposed to of been refurbished, the elusive 107.

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Good to see a ride video of a refurbished 360, but it sounds more like Alternative Rock music on the inside rather than the usual Desiro interior sounds, how strange!
 

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Good to see a ride video of a refurbished 360, but it sounds more like Alternative Rock music on the inside rather than the usual Desiro interior sounds, how strange!
It's all part of the refurbishment plan, it even has trance music in the next coach!! ;););)
 

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360 109 is out of action again today due to a problem with the doors, probably not a coincidence that this is one part of the mechanical systems that appears to have had an upgrade - much quicker to open - when they do...
 

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Finally caught a refurbished 360 yesterday. Initial thoughts are the chairs are comfy and lots of plug sockets at tables.

They are a bit bright (or cool lighting temperature).

My main concern is that the Connect service serves 2 different customers, the commuters who probably want more seats than tables, and the Luton Airport commuters who want luggage racks and tables. Knowing how busy they get in the mornings and evenings, less seats doesn't feel like a good option.
 

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I think the plan is to run 12 car trains once more trains have been refurbished, which will cover the lost seats
Yes I think the original EMR franchise promise was 12 cars.
But hey, there’s been no rushing on producing that.
 

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