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A scam phone calls and emails discussion.

Bevan Price

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Had 3 automated calls on the landline this week with the usual "£99 on Amazon and one thousand and something on Zoom (Zoo? - can't quite make that one out), apparently we have never used our "card" (err which card? which bank ??) with any of those
companies before. Options were 1 to approve, 2 to talk to our representive I think as I had tuned out by that point.

Yeah, right....went straight to answerphone.

They must be getting desperate to try that 3 times (and different mobile numbers)
I have had several such calls recently from "bank security" - they never say which bank - always about a £99 item from Amazon, and a higher value (variable £) from Zoom or elsewhere. I always cut the call.
 
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I had one earlier from Great "West" Railway on a Plymouth number talking about a delay repay claim from June this year saying I had put a claim in for a journey from Newquay to Brighton. They went through train times (none of which existed) and that I had to have changed in Gloucester and Stalybridge for the journey and as I was "delayed by over 120 minutes" I was due a payment of £559.40. (The peak fare is only £184.50) and wanted my bank details. So I gave them a fake one (using the 99-00-00 that is used in tv production as the sort code and 12345678 as the account number) and was told it would be in my bank in two days.

Funnily enough I've never travelled from Newquay to Brighton, and even if I did I would only travel via either London or Exeter, Salisbury and Southampton!)

I reported it to GWR and they said they are aware of a scam affecting train operating companies at present.
 

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I had one earlier from Great "West" Railway on a Plymouth number talking about a delay repay claim from June this year saying I had put a claim in for a journey from Newquay to Brighton. They went through train times (none of which existed) and that I had to have changed in Gloucester and Stalybridge for the journey and as I was "delayed by over 120 minutes" I was due a payment of £559.40. (The peak fare is only £184.50) and wanted my bank details. So I gave them a fake one (using the 99-00-00 that is used in tv production as the sort code and 12345678 as the account number) and was told it would be in my bank in two days.

Funnily enough I've never travelled from Newquay to Brighton, and even if I did I would only travel via either London or Exeter, Salisbury and Southampton!)

I reported it to GWR and they said they are aware of a scam affecting train operating companies at present.
That's an interestingly specific scam, given that 99% of people who they call won't have taken a rail journey even close to the one they're describing and so I expect would immediately be suspicious.
 

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That's an interestingly specific scam, given that 99% of people who they call won't have taken a rail journey even close to the one they're describing and so I expect would immediately be suspicious.
At the same time, many people are so used to the incompetence of companies (not just train companies) that they might think the company is legit and have made an error and opportunistically feel they can fleece them for a few hundred quid. Basically, I wouldn't be surprised if they caught a few people with this.
 

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That's an interestingly specific scam, given that 99% of people who they call won't have taken a rail journey even close to the one they're describing and so I expect would immediately be suspicious.
And I suspect the other 1% will be entirely aware that travelling from Newquay to Brighton by changing in Gloucester and Stalybrige makes absolutely no sense.

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At the same time, many people are so used to the incompetence of companies (not just train companies) that they might think the company is legit and have made an error and opportunistically feel they can fleece them for a few hundred quid. Basically, I wouldn't be surprised if they caught a few people with this.
Yes, I think that must be it.
 

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At the same time, many people are so used to the incompetence of companies (not just train companies) that they might think the company is legit and have made an error and opportunistically feel they can fleece them for a few hundred quid. Basically, I wouldn't be surprised if they caught a few people with this.
I don't feel any sympathy for anyone like that getting caught be such an obvious scam.
 

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I do. It's often vulnerable people who fall for such scams and they don't deserve it.
I see where you're coming from, but unless we're talking about people with cognitive issues then falling victim to this kind of scam fundamentally requires dishonesty on the part of the mark.

Even when I was "of no fixed abode", had someone called me and offered me a refund for a transaction that I didn't know anything about I would have politely declined.
 

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My wife is unfortunately a good potential victim as she is inclined to believe what these callers tell her. I've pointed out that "from your bank" means they don't know what her bank is and are just hoping she won't ask them to confirm it. In both cases, a deep breath and a check on one's account will help to show that it's all a scam.

My mum recently said she had a call from someone she knew was a scammer, because the bank they said they were calling from was not her bank. She was proud of the fact she caught them out, but I had to point out to her that they'll bank (sic) on getting it right some of the time. The key is to not believe them even if they got her bank correct.

It worried me that had they said the right bank, she may have thought the call must be legit.
 

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My mum recently said she had a call from someone she knew was a scammer, because the bank they said they were calling from was not her bank. She was proud of the fact she caught them out, but I had to point out to her that they'll bank (sic) on getting it right some of the time. The key is to not believe them even if they got her bank correct.

It worried me that had they said the right bank, she may have thought the call must be legit.
My mother in law has been scammed twice by someone pretending to be HMRC about a tax refund the first time, and DVLA saying her car tax is overdue the second time. She's not someone that you would naturally see as vulnerable or naive or anything. I think some people just go into autopilot a bit too easy sometimes.
 

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My mother in law has been scammed twice by someone pretending to be HMRC about a tax refund the first time, and DVLA saying her car tax is overdue the second time. She's not someone that you would naturally see as vulnerable or naive or anything. I think some people just go into autopilot a bit too easy sometimes.
My mum has thankfully still got all her mental faculties, lives alone, manages her own money, etc.
Nonetheless, she adopted a tactic a few years ago of pretending that one of her sons has to authorise everything.
This covers both telephone and at door cold callers. She adopts something like: "Oh, well, you'll have to speak to one of my sons about that. They sort all that out for me." in a suitably trembling voice. Touch wood, has worked so far.
 

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Nonetheless, she adopted a tactic a few years ago of pretending that one of her sons has to authorise everything.
That's probably a good idea to suggest to my parents. They're also both of reasonably sound mind, but Dad is starting to have some issues, and while he's generally very good at saying "No thanks", that might help take the pressure out of any situations where he might be scammed.
 

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Just had a text from a RINGO scammer saying I needed to pay an outstanding amount on my account or further action would be taken, blah blah. That’s a new one for me. As far as I know, all RINGO bookings are paid in advance, but all I ever use it for is to register the free hour I get at my local shopping town…
Next thing a RINGO scammer will want to do is to take a photograph of only you :lol:
 

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