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More to it than that from what I hear.Yes. Makes you wonder if it was a low ball bid knowing they will be selling up.
More to it than that from what I hear.Yes. Makes you wonder if it was a low ball bid knowing they will be selling up.
Yep, he didn't understand the British freight business, thinking he could reproduce the US model and was eventually forced to resign from Wisconsin Central. It was the (obnoxious) Brian Mawhinney, onetime Minister of Transport, who did the deal - having previously split the rail freight businees into three pointless competing companies.
Burkhardt's track record in the privatisation of New Zealand and Estonian railways was poor too - they are back now in state hands. Looking him up I see he is still with us at 88.
I guess this depends how hard they have been trying though, and what the motivations of any new operator are.It’s another nail in the coffin for hopes of increasing international railfreight though, given their wide-reaching connections (across Europe and all the way into China) DB are usually considered the best prospect of growing longhaul railfreight networks, but which look ever more unlikely to materialise
EWS got their expansion hopes economically completely wrong e.g. wagonload's eventual complete demise was in the opposite direction to Ed Burkhardt's plan and hopes. However neither Ed and EWS nor DB could have predicted the speed in which the progressive and huge deindustrialisation of the UK would decimate their core traffics such as iron and steel and other metals, coal, oil and chemicals, MOD traffics and intermediate goods. If one looks at early Michael Rhodes and Paul Shannon Freight Only books the plants and factories listed and pictured therein have virtually all disappeared.
I don't believe fire and refire as been banned in the UK?The biggest thing Burkhardt got wrong was the idea that he could sack all the staff and offer them jobs at a lower pay rate with no benefits, he may have got away with it in the US and other countries he got his slimy claws on but there were laws against his methods over here, along with that was his total misunderstanding of where the profits would come from, he treated the Royal Mail contract with contempt and look what happened there
Isn't that what GBrf has been doing for years?Yes. Makes you wonder if it was a low ball bid knowing they will be selling up
The runaway train was at Lac-Megantic in Canada when Ed Burkhardt was CEO of the Montreal, Maine and Atlantic Railway. 47 people died: Lac-Mégantic rail disaster - Wikipedia https://share.google/sD1IjiT1E0ZXOng67As I've said here before, he thought that there were great opportunities in GB because rail only moved about 5% of all 'freight' tonne-miles, so a seemingly small increase - another 5% - would double the size of the business. He should have asked for the percentage of all tonne-miles that were appropriate for bulk rail freight transport and already moved by rail, and it was a much bigger percentage. Class 66s aren't very good at doorstep milk deliveries
Ed didn't understand his relationship with Railtrack. Was very rude about them, then surprised that they found another operator to move their materials trains. A very large proportion of all freight in the South East was lost.
Wisconsin Central itself had a few 'events'; from memory, the following at least;
They decided that their roundhouse in a town was ripe for redevelopment so they blew it up. Unfortunately it had a lot of asbestos in it, that predictably floated down from the sky onto the town.
Then there was the derailment that included chemical tankers resulting in an explosion and fire that burned for a couple of weeks in Weyauwega. I think this was the one when Ed turned up in the devastated town and told everyone that it wasn't a big deal. It didn't go down well for him.
I have a hazy memory of another mishap involving a runaway train bit I'm not sure.
In NZ, again from memory of an item in Private Eye, the station and last few miles of track into Auckland were sold off lucratively for redevelopment, with a new station built inevitably a few miles out of the city
The runaway train was at Lac-Megantic in Canada when Ed Burkhardt was CEO of the Montreal, Maine and Atlantic Railway. 47 people died: Lac-Mégantic rail disaster - Wikipedia https://share.google/sD1IjiT1E0ZXOng67
It is allegedly what GBRf were doing for years, but they are also feeling the heat of poor market conditions and there seems a different approach there. A £218m refinancing package in January 2026, top management changes, cutbacks in staffing and locomotive fleet, not retaining this Drax/Liverpool biomass contract and suggestions in the Rail Freight Flows and News thread that the Clitheroe cement traffic is going to Colas might suggest that profit & loss is now a key driver rather than all out growth.Isn't that what GBrf has been doing for years?
Freight race to the bottom.
DB at the bottom so sell up or go bust.
Drax traffic itself has an uncertain future.It is allegedly what GBRf were doing for years, but they are also feeling the heat of poor market conditions and there seems a different approach there. A £218m refinancing package in January 2026, top management changes, cutbacks in staffing and locomotive fleet, not retaining this Drax/Liverpool biomass contract and suggestions in the Rail Freight Flows and News thread that the Clitheroe cement traffic is going to Colas might suggest that profit & loss is now a key driver rather than all out growth.
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I also wonder how bids for flows such as a retendered Liverpool - Drax costed using brand new class 99s would stack up against say DB Cargo UK's fully depreciated class 66s.
I'd just managed to forget him - and you bring him up again. But there were some shockers in that crew looking back (to basics)It was the (obnoxious) Brian Mawhinney, onetime Minister of Transport, who did the deal -
None of the UK freight operators is financial strong except Freightliner but their backers are intermodal specialists so would they want the diversity of traffic just to pick up a few flows.
This is two of the reasons why I would expect a bid from Medlog/Maritime Transport who are backed by the world largest shipping line which incidentally call at Felixstowe, London Gateway Port, Southampton and Liverpool withe direct deep sea services, whilst also feedering to Greenock, Grangemouth, Portbury and Teesport all with their own ships. Maritime Transport Ltd is also the largest road haulage operator in the UK . Medlog is also a major operator in mainland Europe so could also be interested in Channel Tunnel traffic. It's also privately owned by the Aponte family based in Geneva.The UK freight transport sector is creaking too. Lots of haulage firms going pop, and only those with substantial warehousing/fulfilment capability are doing OK.
None of the UK freight operators is financial strong except Freightliner but their backers are intermodal specialists so would they want the diversity of traffic just to pick up a few flows.
How do you find out all this info genuinely interestedThis is two of the reasons why I would expect a bid from Medlog/Maritime Transport who are backed by the world largest shipping line which incidentally call at Felixstowe, London Gateway Port, Southampton and Liverpool withe direct deep sea services, whilst also feedering to Greenock, Grangemouth, Portbury and Teesport all with their own ships. Maritime Transport Ltd is also the largest road haulage operator in the UK . Medlog is also a major operator in mainland Europe so could also be interested in Channel Tunnel traffic. It's also privately owned by the Aponte family based in Geneva.
https://www.medlog.com/en
With the volumes of containers that MSC move globally and in particular in and our of the UK, there is huge scope for expansion of intermodal rail services for an operator like Medlog especially if was combined with GBRF intermodal volumes.
It may all depend if DB finds a single buyer for the entire organisation, and even if they find a buyer it will likely be an investment company who will then split the company up and sell it off at a profit anyway, so it might be that DB decides it's best and most profitable exit would be to split some of the assets up. That's were CMA CGM purchase of FReightliner was different from Medlog's purchase of Maritime Transport Ltd.As someone working there the answer to that question is 100% no. CMAs focus is purely on being an end one stop logistics company of which Freightliner is now a part of, and also linking their connections with places like Amazon, Tesco, CEVA automotive and logistics storage into Freightliner. They have no interest whatsoever in any of the other things that DB Cargo move, so unless DB was split up into different divisions/assets very unlikely. Heavy Haul was not brought over for the same reason. We are currently waiting to hear back from DB regarding leasing some of their 66s too so perhaps this will push them to release a few temporarily. We are in desperate need of locos at the moment. The new work keeps coming in and loco availability is going down.
DB Cargo (UK) Ltd have fixed assets of £281m primarily locos, wagons and land then they have another £151m in current assets although bulk of that is pension surplus which I doubt any investor will buy out at cost. There are a few other operating subsidiaries (Channel Tnl haulage and maintenance) so maybe an enterprise value of £330m. However, given the prognosis for UK freight market and that fact its run at a loss for many years I can see it being a long drawn out process unless DB AG (German parent) happy for a fire sale to keep EU regulators off their back.Annual Turnover: £274.4 million for the financial year ending December 31, 2024 (up from £268.7 million the prior year).
Net Profit/Loss: Recorded a loss of £12.3 million in 2024, which was a notable operational improvement from a heavy loss of £67.5 million in 2023.
Given DB purchased the business from EWS in 2007 for £307 million, equivalent to about £556 million today, and the company has not made a profit reecently the eventual purchase price I suspect is not going to break the bank, in fact I suspect that without splitting the business up the owners will find it hard sell it to anybody other than somebody who will at some point.
I think Ews managed a great deal with Railtrack via a new commercial director at Railtrack who didn't fully understand the costs of his business; so Ews managed to run heavy trains that made a loss for Railtrack when maintenance was factored in. When Railtrack wised up (one commercial director later) ews found charges from their monopoly supplier much higher than their business model could work with.As I've said here before, he thought that there were great opportunities in GB because rail only moved about 5% of all 'freight' tonne-miles, so a seemingly small increase - another 5% - would double the size of the business. He should have asked for the percentage of all tonne-miles that were appropriate for bulk rail freight transport and already moved by rail, and it was a much bigger percentage. Class 66s aren't very good at doorstep milk deliveries![]()
I spent of fifty years in the freight industry and have followed the developments of MSC and other shipping lines during this time. MSC is almost unique as it started with one ship in 1970 and has built it's shipping line business almost entirely through organic growth. Today is operates over 1000 vessels around the world and has an order book for new ships equivalent to the size of Hapag Lloyds current fleet which is about the fifth largest in the world.How do you find out all this info genuinely interested
I think Ews managed a great deal with Railtrack via a new commercial director at Railtrack who didn't fully understand the costs of his business; so Ews managed to run heavy trains that made a loss for Railtrack when maintenance was factored in. When Railtrack wised up (one commercial director later) ews found charges from their monopoly supplier much higher than their business model could work with.
It is allegedly what GBRf were doing for years, but they are also feeling the heat of poor market conditions and there seems a different approach there. A £218m refinancing package in January 2026, top management changes, cutbacks in staffing and locomotive fleet, not retaining this Drax/Liverpool biomass contract and suggestions in the Rail Freight Flows and News thread that the Clitheroe cement traffic is going to Colas might suggest that profit & loss is now a key driver rather than all out growth.
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I also wonder how bids for flows such as a retendered Liverpool - Drax costed using brand new class 99s would stack up against say DB Cargo UK's fully depreciated class 66s.
Drax biomass flow volumes have already fallen more than 30% and will fall a lot more over then next year, hence this isn't the big contract it once was.Drax traffic itself has an uncertain future.
The plant is already on a standby contract, and it's not obvious wood pellets as fuel have a long-term future.
A lot depends on its carbon capture initiative to reduce emissions.
DB Cargo (UK) Ltd have fixed assets of £281m primarily locos, wagons and land then they have another £151m in current assets although bulk of that is pension surplus which I doubt any investor will buy out at cost. There are a few other operating subsidiaries (Channel Tnl haulage and maintenance) so maybe an enterprise value of £330m. However, given the prognosis for UK freight market and that fact its run at a loss for many years I can see it being a long drawn out process unless DB AG (German parent) happy for a fire sale to keep EU regulators off their back.
I could see Freightliner and Medlog both bidding for the automotive business, especially given CEVA's existing links to the industry whilst I think Medlog could be interested as they recently purchase a specialist vehicle carrier in the form of Global Car Carriers. Global Car Carriers for which is has launched a major newbuilding program in China for 12 dual-fuel LNG Pure Car Truck worth about US$1billion. I suspect this more to cater for the growing Chinese vehicle market, so rail ideal for moving cars inland whilst you the like of Chinese manufacturers showing signs of establishing them in the UK, I heard rumours of plans for taking space at Nissan's Sunderland plant and JLR's plant at Halewood with a view of serving the EU market.
They did the same with Arriva, so not surprising. They are struggling back in their home marketThis is one of the least surprising things I’ve heard in a while.
The whole operation has had an air of neglect about it for years.
At the time I thought it was quite clear that EWS decided some of the existing loco fleet was becoming increasingly difficult and expensive to maintain, and thatIt started so well.
Mr Ed Berkhardt's Wisconsin Central were chosen to have all the BR Railfteight businesses - apart from Freighliner - after an interview at the British Embassy in New York ... allegedly.
So many promises of expansion by Ed, so much better once all the nationalised-era managers 'managing decline' have gone. The 200 66s were all for extra traffic, all the existing locos would still be needed. Freight traffic tonne-miles would be doubled.
Who would have guessed that it would all turn to this? Hmmm ...