Oh, agree. Sorry - was making the point that the diagrams are amended today as there are aervices which usually are mk5 that are not (or cancelled).
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37052 xb mr
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No problem
Cheers
CR165022
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So, with all 68s having now been used in service, is it just CH11 left to have not worked in service? Bar 12802 of course.
37052 xb mr
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No, regular 4 diagrams on a Tuesday & Wednesday normally.
Only 4 today but more London to Birmingham trips today.
May need to reclarify.
Yes, the number of diagrams at the moment is 4 in the midweek, but they could use upto six sets across the day if they needed to cycle them.
There could also be more mk5a trips run in the day, using those same four unit diagrams / diagrammed sets.
Yes, the number of diagrams at the moment is 4 in the midweek, but they could use upto six sets across the day if they needed to cycle them.
There could also be more mk5a trips run in the day, using those same four unit diagrams / diagrammed sets.
Kentish RYS
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Is there any info about the planned December Timetable (or whichever change) that plans to up the number of services to use more of these. For example what the Chiltern service patterns will be, or what will be which stock? Sorry if it has been stated in the nearly one and a half thousand posts above.
*edit* found it in another thread just after I asked, of course: Chiltern application to run more London-Birmingham services
unless there is more than the extra London Marylebone to Birmingham Moor Street Trains?
*edit* found it in another thread just after I asked, of course: Chiltern application to run more London-Birmingham services
unless there is more than the extra London Marylebone to Birmingham Moor Street Trains?
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Nothing 'traditional, timetable on paper' type info yet (I don't think?).
Just online talk and publication of the WTT online.
Unless the full NRT has been made available yet.
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Just online talk and publication of the WTT online.
Unless the full NRT has been made available yet.
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There be *significant* timetable alterations i belive accross the board come december TT change.
Kentish RYS
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Thanks I'll potentially be using Chiltern more later this year and hadn't been paying much attention before so am trying to see what the situation is.
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37052 xb mr
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No because I haven’t got a quote
47286Dan
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This mornings move
68026 MBDL EGHT RSMD 865H691F25 V * BANBRYDEP N
Coaches
11506 12716 12717 12718 12806
This afternoons move
68029 MBDL BANBRYDEP 695O861M25 V * EGHT RSMD N
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11502 12704 12705 12706 12814
Dan
68026 MBDL EGHT RSMD 865H691F25 V * BANBRYDEP N
Coaches
11506 12716 12717 12718 12806
This afternoons move
68029 MBDL BANBRYDEP 695O861M25 V * EGHT RSMD N
Coaches
11502 12704 12705 12706 12814
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Peter Sarf
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Reminds me to wonder where 12802 is right now ?.
(fingers crossed)
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Peter Sarf
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Thanks (a bit), fingers still crossed for the future !.
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Never has there been so much interest in a piece of coaching stock!
Peter Sarf
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I imagine very little incentive. I imagine there is even a cost that is more than just re-marshalling a set and mving coaches around the country.
The only incentive I can think of is if Chiltern taking on the lease of the whole fleet including the spare Driving Trailer 12802 means Chiltern want to be sure 12802 is in a usable state before becoming responsible for it going forwards.
Otherwise it is just to satisfy those who desire "correct" formations !.
Not even sure if it's been 'accepted' yet.
Not 100% sure on what it's had done, to make it worthy of acceptance.
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But... yes. This!
It would make my OCD a lot better.
From the Chiltern application to run more London-Birmingham services thread
The Birmingham Moor Street departures at 09:45 and 10:15 on a weekday are the first and second for which super-off-peak tickets are valid as the restriction is arrival in London Marylebone after 11:30. Looking at Realtime Trains for Friday 17 July 2025, when there were no planned timetable changes, 7 (4+3) car and 5 (3+2) car 168 formations ran. Looking at Friday 15th January 2027 both show First & Standard class seating so potentially changed to Mk5 sets and hence reduced capacity, a potential issue on numerous posts in this thread. From experience albeit in summer not January both of these services can be 100% capacity if not standing from Leamington Spa then standing from Banbury onwards.
The Birmingham Moor Street departures at 09:45 and 10:15 on a weekday are the first and second for which super-off-peak tickets are valid as the restriction is arrival in London Marylebone after 11:30. Looking at Realtime Trains for Friday 17 July 2025, when there were no planned timetable changes, 7 (4+3) car and 5 (3+2) car 168 formations ran. Looking at Friday 15th January 2027 both show First & Standard class seating so potentially changed to Mk5 sets and hence reduced capacity, a potential issue on numerous posts in this thread. From experience albeit in summer not January both of these services can be 100% capacity if not standing from Leamington Spa then standing from Banbury onwards.
JMW146
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Not sure what time it'll be leaving Banbury but Chiltern 68019 is currently on top of 4O99 due to 66507 failing
CR165022
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Right now as it happens!
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Like seeing occasional InterCity 47s on liners in the 90s, only 25-30 years on.
Is there another issue with 4O99? Seems to have been sat not far beyind Tackley for about half an hour now (well, at least according to Traksy, anyway)
There's an infrastructure issue down that way.
Affecting both directions.
JMW146
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Would've probably seen me on the camera filming it?
Strathclyder
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507 was failed due to defective cab air-con apparently.
Martin Loader caught the ensemble passing Culham:
That means driver cab right?
They have so many carriages with no air-con. It makes it unbearable to travel.