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How is maintenance organised for different asset types?

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I recently came across this shapefile dataset from 2023 with shapefiles for various Network Rail subdivisions: Region, Route, Maintenance Delivery Unit (MDU), Track Maintenance Engineer (TME) and Track Section Manager (TSM) - each fitting within the divisional level above it, although they are some integration of layers sometimes (TMEs with only one TSM etc).
From that I've made this map to try and represent the information for Wales & Western. Nothing special about W&W, it's just where I've happened to start and am interested in covering the rest of the Routes.
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However, I'm not entirely sure what this information actually means!

Especially since I came across this ORR document from 2022 about how maintenance is structured. A lot of it is complex management speak but there was some interesting information about the different role types involved.
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Initially I had assumed that the TME level is equivalent to the "IME" position in the org chart above. But I now notice that the IME has an asterisk referring to "1 per MDU". I think in this context, MDU refers to the top level divisions within a route (for Western: East, Central, South; for Wales: Cardiff, Shrewsbury). So if there's only one IMDM and only one IME per MDU then the TME subdivisions in the dataset might only refer to specifically the Track/Pway department, and similar for the inner TSM divisions.

So tldr: do the TME/TSM subdivisions in the above map apply only to Track or are there other disciplines organised according to those same areas (or do other asset types have totally different subdivisions)?

For reference, I'll include tables of all the MDU/TME/TSM divisions for the other regions that I haven't made a map of (yet) just so that people who know areas other than W&W can comment on that. Keep in mind this is 2023 data, I believe since then the whole of the WCML has become its own Route, but at that time there was just a WCML South.
Maintenance Delivery UnitTrack Maintenance EngineerTrack Section Manager
Motherwell [MDU]Motherwell [TME]Motherwell [TSM]
Carstairs
Dumfries
Irvine [TME]Irvine [TSM]
Maybole
Paisley
Glasgow [MDU]Glasgow (West Highland Line) [TME]Crianlarich
Fort William
Glasgow East [TME]Glasgow East [TSM]
Glasgow West
Dunbarton
Glasgow Central [TME]Glasgow Central [TSM]
Glasgow South
Edinburgh [MDU]Edinburgh [TME]Waverley
Edinburgh Park
Portobello
Inverkeithing [TME]Inverkeithing [TSM]
Stirling
Perth [MDU]Perth [TME]Perth [TSM]
Dundee
Inverness [TME]Inverness [TSM]
Dingwall
Keith
Helmsdale
RouteMaintenance Delivery UnitTrack Maintenance EngineerTrack Section Manager
North WestLancashire & CumbriaAppleby [TME]Appleby [TSM]
Cumbrian Coast
Preston [TME]Preston [TSM]
Kirkham
Carnforth [TME]Carnforth [TSM]
Carlisle [TME]Carlisle [TSM]
Blackburn [TME]Blackburn [TSM]
Liverpool [MDU]Liverpool [TME]Edge Hill
Chester
Warrington [TME]Warrington [TSM]
Wigan
CreweCrewe North
Crewe South
Mersey [TSM]Mersey [TSM]
ManchesterManchester SouthPiccadilly
Wilmslow
Manchester NorthVictoria
Bolton
Manchester EastChinley
Guide Bridge
WCML SouthStafford [MDU]Stafford [TME]Stafford [TSM]
Stoke
Nuneaton [TME]Nuneaton [TSM]
Bletchley [MDU]Bletchley [TME]Leighton Buzzard
Milton Keynes
RugbyRugby South
Rugby North
Northampton
Euston [MDU]Euston [TME]Euston [TSM]
Stonebridge Park
Watford [TME]Watford [TSM]
CentralSaltley [MDU]Saltley [TME]Saltley [TSM]
Stourbridge
Banbury [TME]Banbury [TSM]
High Wycombe [TSM]
Worcester [TME]Worcester [TSM]
Sandwell & Dudley [MDU]Sandwell & Dudley [TME]Sandwell & Dudley [TSM]
Walsall
Coventry
RouteMaintenance Delivery UnitTrack Maintenance EngineerTrack Section Manager
KentLondon Bridge [MDU]London Bridge [TME]London Bridge [TSM]
Hither Green [TME]Hither Green [TSM]
Dartford [TME]Dartford [TSM]
Orpington [MDU]Orpington [TME]Orpington [TSM]
Herne Hill
Tonbridge [TME]Tonbridge [TSM]
Ashford [MDU]Ashford [TME]Ashford [TSM]
FavershamMedway
East Kent
SussexBrighton [MDU]Brighton SouthBrighton [TSM]
Barnham
Brighton NorthHorsham
Three Bridges
Croydon [MDU]Croydon NorthCroydon [TSM]
Victoria
Croydon SouthNorwood
WessexWessex InnerClapham [TME]Clapham [TSM]
Waterloo
Feltham [TME]Feltham [TSM]
Wimbledon
Woking [TME]Woking [TSM]
Guildford
Wessex OuterEastleigh [TME]Eastleigh [TSM]
Southampton
Basingstoke [TME]Basingstoke [TSM]
Havant
Salisbury [TME]Salisbury [TSM]
Yeovil
Bournemouth [TME]Bournemouth [TSM]
RouteMaintenance Delivery UnitTrack Maintenance EngineerTrack Section Manager
East CoastKings CrossFinsbury Park [TME]Finsbury Park [TSM]
Hitchin [TME]Hitchin [TSM]
PeterboroughPeterborough South [TME]Peterborough South [TSM]
Peterborough North [TME]Peterborough North [TSM]
Doncaster [MDU]Doncaster [TME]Doncaster East
Doncaster West
Grantham
Darlington [MDU]Darlington [TME]Darlington [TSM]
York (East Coast)
Newcastle [MDU]Newcastle [TME]Newcastle [TSM]
Morpeth [TME]Morpeth [TSM]
North & EastSheffield [MDU]Sheffield [TME]Sheffield South
Sheffield North
Retford
Barnetby [TME]Barnetby [TSM]
Leeds [MDU]Leeds [TME]Leeds [TSM]
Shipley
Wakefield [TME]Wakefield [TSM]
Huddersfield
York [MDU]York [TME]York (Central)
Hull
Knottingley [TME]Knottingley West
Knottingley East
Middlesbrough [MDU]Middlesbrough [TME]Middlesbrough West
Middlesbrough East
Heaton
East MidlandsBedford [MDU]Bedford [TME]Bedford [TSM]
Kettering
Luton [TME]Luton [TSM]
Cricklewood
Derby [MDU]Derby [TME]Derby [TSM]
Burton
Nottingham [TME]Nottingham [TSM]
Loscoe
Lincoln [TME]Lincoln [TSM]
Sleaford
Leicester [TME]Leicester [TSM]
Oakham
Trent
AngliaRomford [MDU]Romford [TME]Liverpool Street
Stratford
Shenfield
Barking [TME]Barking [TSM]
Leigh-on-Sea
Tottenham [MDU]Tottenham [TME]Tottenham Hale
Camden
Broxbourne
Ely [TME]Ely [TSM]
March
Ipswich [MDU]Ipswich [TME]Ipswich [TSM]
Colchester
Norwich [TME]Norwich [TSM]
Lowestoft

RouteMaintenance Delivery UnitTrack Maintenance EngineerTrack Section Manager
WesternEastWest Ealing [TME]West Ealing [TSM]
Paddington
Reading [TME]Reading [TSM]
Slough
CentralSwindon [TME]Swindon [TSM]
Didcot
Bristol [TME]Bristol [TSM]
Parkway
Gloucester
SouthWestbury [TME]Westbury [TSM]
Newbury
Exeter Newton Abbot
Taunton
PlymouthTavistock Jnc
Truro
WalesCardiff [MDU]Cardiff [TME]Cardiff [TSM]
Newport [TME]Newport [TSM]
SwanseaPort Talbot
Llanelli
Haverfordwest
Shrewsbury [MDU]Shrewsbury [TME]Shrewsbury [TSM]
Llandudno
Hereford [TME]Hereford [TSM]
Machynlleth
Llandrindod

 
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In general, there is an equivalent 'x'ME role for the Signalling, E&P and sometimes off-track. Depending on the number of assets E&P can sometime be DU level. Structures and telecoms are usually managed at Region level, the exact boundaries may not match the track boundaries again depending on asset volumes.

The various ME's report into the IME at the MDU level.
 

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Usually there will only be one TME per Maintenance Delivery Unit, although occaisonally two. The next layer, Section Managers, will be specific to each discipline, depending on the the and quantity of asset (and therefore maintenance work).

For example, in a Delivery unit the TME might have 4 Track Section Managers, but the SME covering the same delivery unit might have 6 Signalling Section Managers.
 
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I see, so E&P is more often at the MDU level. I would imagine perhaps in Southern Region E&P is more often at the lower level. Does E&P include OLE as a "sub-department" or is that separate?

There is something a bit confusing about how the term MDU refers to the top level division, but the divisions inside of it are still called DUs. I recall that there is a rather large and prominent building at Colchester called "Colchester Maintenance Delivery Unit", except that Colchester is a track section of the Ipswich track maintenance engineer area which itself is part of Ipswich MDU.

It would be great to see a list of DUs and which departments are present there. Norwich DU is split across different buildings down Lower Clarence Rd and so the individual departments announce themselves on the street. I can see Pway, S&T, Offtrack, Operations (so MOMs I guess) and interestingly Telecoms (though presumably not an organisational subdivision of Eastern telecoms)
 

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The boundaries of each discipline differ. The delivery unit boundaries tend to stay broadly the same between each discipline (although can different, Swindon pway/track and Swindon S&T used to have different boundaries so that made the boundary between Western Central and Western West* DUs differ).

The maintenance engineer boundaries can differ. In my DU one STME has only one S&T section. That section is covered by two main pway sections that fall under one TME but crosses into another pway area on one boundary and another DUs TME area on the other border.


* was it renamed at some point? I always thought it was West but your map has it as South.
 

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I see, so E&P is more often at the MDU level. I would imagine perhaps in Southern Region E&P is more often at the lower level. Does E&P include OLE as a "sub-department" or is that separate?

There is something a bit confusing about how the term MDU refers to the top level division, but the divisions inside of it are still called DUs. I recall that there is a rather large and prominent building at Colchester called "Colchester Maintenance Delivery Unit", except that Colchester is a track section of the Ipswich track maintenance engineer area which itself is part of Ipswich MDU.

It would be great to see a list of DUs and which departments are present there. Norwich DU is split across different buildings down Lower Clarence Rd and so the individual departments announce themselves on the street. I can see Pway, S&T, Offtrack, Operations (so MOMs I guess) and interestingly Telecoms (though presumably not an organisational subdivision of Eastern telecoms)

E&P will typically have OLE section managers, and Plant & Distribution section managers.

There aren’t Delivery Units within Maintenance Delivery Units, at least not in an organisational sense.

Colchester was the Maintenance Delivery Unit, but it moved to Ipswich many years ago. What is now at Colchester is (I think) Colchester Track Section Manager and the Colchester S&T Section Manager.

Norwich has various sections that are part of the Ipswich MDU. Except Ops of course, that is for the Local Ops Managers who manage the MOMs and the various operational outposts out there (Trowse box and the three pure swingbridges)
 
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Usually there will only be one TME per Maintenance Delivery Unit, although occaisonally two.
Curious, As far as I can tell in the above data (unless lots of re-organisation has occurred): Sandwell & Dudley, Doncaster and Darlington are the only MDUs to have just one TME. The majority have 2 or 3 and a few have more, Lancashire & Cumbria MDU has 5?!

The delivery unit boundaries tend to stay broadly the same between each discipline
This is good to know thanks
The maintenance engineer boundaries can differ. In my DU one STME has only one S&T section. That section is covered by two main pway sections that fall under one TME but crosses into another pway area on one boundary and another DUs TME area on the other border.
Ah so there's lots of messiness!
* was it renamed at some point? I always thought it was West but your map has it as South.
I've seen both, the ORR doc says "South" and so I thought that sounded a little better than saying "Western West".

E&P will typically have OLE section managers, and Plant & Distribution section managers.
Interesting! I'd imagine P&D section areas can be quite large, for example East Mids, where there are only a handful of 25kV substations in Bedford MDU.
Is E&P also responsible for signalling power or does the department just not exist where areas don't have any electrification
There aren’t Delivery Units within Maintenance Delivery Units, at least not in an organisational sense.
Okay so is it better to conceptualise it as some DUs have an IMDM present and acts as the top level underneath the route
Colchester was the Maintenance Delivery Unit, but it moved to Ipswich many years ago. What is now at Colchester is (I think) Colchester Track Section Manager and the Colchester S&T Section Manager.
The sign facing he platforms has remained however! There is another building I can see on streetview called "Ipswich MDU: Colchester depot".
Norwich has various sections that are part of the Ipswich MDU. Except Ops of course, that is for the Local Ops Managers who manage the MOMs and the various operational outposts out there (Trowse box and the three pure swingbridges)
Surely apart from Track as I did see a specific Norwich TME mentioned in the dataset with a Norwich TSM and Lowestoft TSM?
 

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Curious, As far as I can tell in the above data (unless lots of re-organisation has occurred): Sandwell & Dudley, Doncaster and Darlington are the only MDUs to have just one TME. The majority have 2 or 3 and a few have more, Lancashire & Cumbria MDU has 5?!
Apologies, brainfart on my part.


Okay so is it better to conceptualise it as some DUs have an IMDM present and acts as the top level underneath the route

Every Maintenance Delivery Unit has an IMDM who is responsible for it.
 

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E&P Distribution are responsible for signalling Power supplies and of the 650 and 400 volt distribution cabling
 
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Every Maintenance Delivery Unit has an IMDM who is responsible for it.
Hmmmm? So Anglia (since we were mentioning it) has 3 MDUs and so 3 IMDMs: Romford, Tottenham, Ipswich.
Within Ipswich MDU there is a TME for Ipswich and another for Norwich. So what actually is Norwich known as? There are signs calling it a "Maintenance Delivery Unit", and others just saying "Norwich depot".
It's only because I've definitely seen many people throw around "DU" to mean offices/facilities which are not the top level MDU with the IMDM. Is this just a lazy use of terminology?

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Something else I'd be interested to know is where the OLE maintenance depots are located, I've heard of few but mostly guess work.

For Anglia, I know there is Romford and Pitsea at least, Cheshunt possibly. (And Colchester for E&P)

For East Coast, I've heard of a Hornsey depot and also a Hitchin which seems like quite a dense coverage - maybe Hitchin strays into Anglia territory. Then I'd imagine there's one for each MDU: Peterborough has a training facility I think, Doncaster, Darlington, Newcastle. (Additionally, Alexandra Palace E&P)

East Midlands is just Bedford

North & East: Holbeck for Leeds MDU???

WCML S: Stonebridge Park (Euston MDU), Bletchley, and so I'd expect Stafford?

Central: no idea...

North West: Longsight? Surely there's more though

For Western there's actual information online for this so: East MDU has Westbourne Park and Reading, Central MDU has Swindon and Bristol.

Wales: Cardiff MDU has Newport, not sure regarding CVL maybe they share, maybe there's Taffs Well site

Scotland: Shields, Carstairs, Portobello. Perhaps another depot was put in for EGIP
 
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