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Is anything actually going to happen with that one, as it seems to have just been taken down to Penzance, and nothing has happened with it?
 
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Apedlar12 said:
Is anything actually going to happen with that one, as it seems to have just been taken down to Penzance, and nothing has happened with it?
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Not likely to be used in any useful capacity for some time based upon the information provided to me. I aren’t sure if the details that I heard are accurate or not so won’t repeat them on here.
 
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REVUpminster said:
I.ve updated this list from youtube and face book.

175001 Laira (Wolverton arrival: April 3, 2025, Wolverton Departure: November 5, 2025)
175002 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton) 27 November 2024
175003 Laira (Wolverton arrival: March 3, 2025, Wolverton Departure: September 18, 2025)
175004 Exeter TMD (Wolverton Arrival: January 30, 2026) (Wolverton Departure: June 23rd, 2026)
175005 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: July 1st, 2026) by road
175006 Laira (Wolverton arrival: April 23, 2025, Wolverton Departure: December 10, 2025)
175007 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton) 28 February 2025
175009 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton) 27 January 2025
175010 Penzance T.R.S.M.D. (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton) 13 January 2026 post 2085
175011 Laira (Wolverton arrival: April 23, 2025, Wolverton Departure: December 10, 2025)
175101 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: July 10, 2025, Wolverton Departure: January 23 2026)
175102 Wolverton (Wolverton arrival: October 30, 2025)
175103 Wolverton (Wolverton arrival: March 27, 2026)
175104 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings
175105 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: March 27, 2026)
175106 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: July 24, 2025)
175107 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: March 19, 2025)
175108 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: March 19, 2025)
175109 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: April 16, 2026)
175110 Wolverton (Wolverton Arrival: January 30, 2026)
175111 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: October 9, 2025, Wolverton Departure: March 20, 2026)
175112 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: July 24, 2025, Wolverton departure: February 20, 2026)
175113 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: July 10, 2025, Wolverton departure: May 15, 2026)
175114 Laira (Straight from Ely, no Wolverton) 5 December 2024
175115 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: October 9, 2025, Wolverton departure: April 13, 2026)
175116 Laira (Wolverton Arrival: October 30, 2025, Wolverton departure: May 28, 2026)

I've copy pasted and added in bold. Created by BillStampy
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Am I right in assuming that the units straight from Ely and not been touched by Wolverton, in the majority, have been used the most and been more reliable or have I not been keeping up well enough ?

"Reliable" with a pinch of salt !

Have the units through Wolverton been more problematic and if so why ?

Thoughts anyone ?
 
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XFeed said:
Am I right in assuming that the units straight from Ely and not been touched by Wolverton, in the majority, have been used the most and been more reliable or have I not been keeping up well enough ?

"Reliable" with a pinch of salt !

Have the units through Wolverton been more problematic and if so why ?

Thoughts anyone ?
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I'd think that the units sent straight from Ely were picked as probably the most reliable / least unreliable ones.
 
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Same 175 units be used on same diagrams so consistency seems to be working. Still a a 150 working 2P05.

"Devon Metro" been really good this week although an opportunity seems to have been missed with 2 car 158 working Okehampton when it could have been attached to a 3 car 158 to work Barnstaple 0722 to mirror a proposed 175 working.

I still think 175s will do Okehampton first to coincide wit Okehampton Interchange opening because they will need the capacity.
 
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REVUpminster said:
Same 175 units be used on same diagrams so consistency seems to be working. Still a a 150 working 2P05.

"Devon Metro" been really good this week although an opportunity seems to have been missed with 2 car 158 working Okehampton when it could have been attached to a 3 car 158 to work Barnstaple 0722 to mirror a proposed 175 working.

I still think 175s will do Okehampton first to coincide wit Okehampton Interchange opening because they will need the capacity.
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A 5 car 158 won't operate to Barnstaple, it would be local door only at every station bar Barnstaple and Crediton! Also, the morning Barnstaple's are dead now that college has finished.

31st August for Barnstaple/Okehampton first diagram, see attached picture.
 

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RPI said:
A 5 car 158 won't operate to Barnstaple, it would be local door only at every station bar Barnstaple and Crediton! Also, the morning Barnstaple's are dead now that college has finished.

31st August for Barnstaple/Okehampton first diagram, see attached picture.
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Oh goody, nice to see the footnote at the bottom and see the Reading > Bedwyn IETs re-instated at long last! :D
 
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RPI said:
A 5 car 158 won't operate to Barnstaple, it would be local door only at every station bar Barnstaple and Crediton! Also, the morning Barnstaple's are dead now that college has finished.

31st August for Barnstaple/Okehampton first diagram, see attached picture.
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What does units mean on the picture?
 
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REVUpminster said:
They only need Two for Okehampton and Three for Barnstaple. One (maybe Two in future For Newquay and Five for the mainline. Might need more if doubling up some diagrams.
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Total serviceable units required across the business.
 
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RPI said:
Total serviceable units required across the business.
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I assume the jump from 16 to 18 with the addition of the last diagram is because at that point an extra spare is deemed necessary rather than that the entire diagram is for a pair of units?
 
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paultucker1012 said:
I'd think that the units sent straight from Ely were picked as probably the most reliable / least unreliable ones.
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Due to the length of time being parked up at Ely I would have thought it would have been difficult to decide what a good or bad unit would have been unless it was totally obvious when looking at them that some wouldn`t have been suitable without a lot of attention.

Edit, what`s happened with 114 for it to fail ?
 
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Due to the length of time being parked up at Ely I would have thought it would have been difficult to decide what a good or bad unit would have been unless it was totally obvious when looking at them that some wouldn`t have been suitable without a lot of attention.

Edit, what`s happened with 114 for it to fail ?
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175114 had engines overheating, 175115 also failed at Liskeard due to cab air cooling not working.
 
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175114 had engines overheating, 175115 also failed at Liskeard due to cab air cooling not working.
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Am I correct that GWR 150s and/or others don`t have cab air con or air cooling ?

If that is correct do drivers also fail those units if the cab is too hot like they do with units with air con or do they just carry on with the no air con units ?
 
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It's literally the whole point of them arriving :lol:

Frees up the whole 158 fleet to go back to Bristol with some turbo's coming west.
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That's the first I've heard of any plans to use the 175s to let 158s go elsewhere.
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XFeed said:
Am I correct that GWR 150s and/or others don`t have cab air con or air cooling ?

If that is correct do drivers also fail those units if the cab is too hot like they do with units with air con or do they just carry on with the no air con units ?
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All GWR 150's have cab air con fitted.
 
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REVUpminster said:
Same 175 units be used on same diagrams so consistency seems to be working. Still a a 150 working 2P05.

"Devon Metro" been really good this week although an opportunity seems to have been missed with 2 car 158 working Okehampton when it could have been attached to a 3 car 158 to work Barnstaple 0722 to mirror a proposed 175 working.

I still think 175s will do Okehampton first to coincide wit Okehampton Interchange opening because they will need the capacity.
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Although with Exeter college closed for the summer, loadings for morning/evening services which would normally be heavy with students have decreased.

Snow1964 said:
The inability to get the 175s working continues to have knock on effects, it is stopping 158s being transferred to Cardiff-Portsmouth

So getting very short trains like today's 1F14, just a 2car 158, 158767 ( which lost time many stations)
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Not really, using Westbury to Bristol it didn't loss any time, lost 5 minutes approaching Westbury station (no doubt due to waiting for a platform) so departed 14 minutes late, and arrived at Bath the same delay.
 
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Watched 175112 cross the Tamar on 2E38. At platform 8 it coupled up to 175011, but earlier workings indicated 175002 was waiting in the platform. Anyway whatever it was 5 cars continued as 2E28 and the 2 car led through Dawlish cams.

update 2E38 into platform 6b occupied by 2M77 to Bristol which today was 800005 as they seem to make a connection every day as it left 8 late. Two 5 car trains in platform 6 which the signalling allows for.
2E38 now 3Z20 left for Barnstaple 8 late.

update. It looked like 175112+175011 returned and stayed in Platform 4 when 112 took the Paignton training run and 011 took 2C05 to Penzance. So all in all a good run.
 
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The St Ives line seems to be a bit of a safe haven for 150s (along with Looe and Gunnislake) - unless there are any plans to get 175s cleared?
 
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