Gatelines - UK vs Europe

[Bletchleyite]

The proportion of stations without barriers in the Netherlands is actually quite high, but the distribution is such that most journeys will involve at least one gateline (assuming journeys tend to either start or finish at a larger station). Trains that stop at lots of small stations tend to have more onboard checks.

That's generally Merseyrail's approach - most journeys that aren't just kids going one or two stops will involve one of the Liverpool stations, Southport or Chester, and those are gated (plus a few others).

 

[AY1975]

Lots of Lisbon suburban stations are totally unstaffed, meaning a valid interrail ticket is useless as you cannot enter or exit the station. Similar in France on Ile-de-France lines and Spain on many suburban lines. Caught out in France entering a gated platform on a train from Troyes, unhelpful as interrailticket wouldn'topen barriers. Luckily helpful local got me out.
At least UK barriers have staff, we might think Europe always does things better, can give many examples where they don't!
Netherlands totally barriered but interrail tickets have a QR code that opens them.

Does this mean that QR codes on Interrail passes will open the barriers in the Netherlands but not in France?

Many central and eastern European countries have no gates installed, even at major stations, and rely 100% on on-board checks.

As do countries like Germany, Austria, Switzerland and (AFAIK) Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland.

 

[The exile]

Simple answer. Onboard ticket checking. I've travelled extensively in France, Belgium, The Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland and Austria. It is rare not to have your ticket checked in these Countries.

Looks as if you haven’t done much S-Bahn travel then.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Looks as if you haven’t done much S-Bahn travel then.

On DOO services it's done by way of random inspections and their equivalent of Penalty Fares. Still essentially onboard only though, I never saw a station block in Germany.

Notably Penalty Fares (Selbstkontrolle = self checking) in Switzerland are extremely strict, on regional services there are very few defences against not holding a valid ticket - that means if the TVMs are broken and you can't buy on your phone a station is in effect closed. On guard worked long distance services the rules are similar to here in that there are some defences e.g. unable to buy (or "confused tourist") - but the guard can and does issue penalty fares so you're much less likely to be simply sold a ticket. Confusingly the same "eye" symbol is used to denote both.

 

[The exile]

On DOO services it's done by way of random inspections and their equivalent of Penalty Fares. Still essentially onboard only though, I never saw a station block in Germany

Indeed - in 13 years’ residence I didn’t either. I was commenting more on the statement that it was rare not to encounter an onboard check- which suggests to me that the poster’s experience of S-Bahn and indeed local rural travel in Germany was limited, as my experience based on those 13 years would put the “strike rate” on shortish local journeys considerably lower than here.
Indeed, my local line had the irony of being a compulsory ticket area, in the entirety of which there was not a single opportunity to purchase a ticket. (This is a few years back - before smartphones)

 

[Bletchleyite]

Indeed - in 13 years’ residence I didn’t either. I was commenting more on the statement that it was rare not to encounter an onboard check- which suggests to me that the poster’s experience of S-Bahn and indeed local rural travel in Germany was limited, as my experience based on those 13 years would put the “strike rate” on shortish local journeys considerably lower than here.

I think it depends on what here. I've been inspected on the Aylesbury branch twice, for instance, and I've used it a fair bit over the years. But that seems to rely on the gatelines even though plenty of the stations don't have them (the almost everyone going to Marylebone theory, I guess).

I didn't get inspected often during my 9 months in Hamburg though. Maybe 3 or 4 times despite using the U-Bahn daily?

 

[The exile]

I think it depends on what here. I've been inspected on the Aylesbury branch twice, for instance, and I've used it a fair bit over the years. But that seems to rely on the gatelines even though plenty of the stations don't have them (the almost everyone going to Marylebone theory, I guess).

I didn't get inspected often during my 9 months in Hamburg though. Maybe 3 or 4 times despite using the U-Bahn daily?

Indeed - “round here” being the Bristol area. If I’m on GWR locals I reckon my ticket gets inspected about 18 times per week out of 20 possibilities (4 trains a day). Using XC or GW Intercity lowers that average, but they’re not serving any unbarriered stations in the area, so fair enough - there’s less urgency.

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I didn't get inspected often during my 9 months in Hamburg though. Maybe 3 or 4 times despite using the U-Bahn daily?

With an emphasis between the 3rd and the 10th of the month? Certainly used to be that way in the Ruhrgebiet - give people a couple of days’ grace to switch to the new month on their season ticket then come down hard after that. Again, probably a feature of the pre-tech days in the late 90s.