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Peter Mugridge

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Butlins .. off peak

A friend from overseas has just had a short 4-night break in Butlins with his young family.

He was staying at Bognor Regis and paid about £140, although of course the same accommodation, in peak season could be as high as £600.

Even better, in September it could be as low as £115 for 4 nights in an apartment (see image)

I wonder whether this would be suitable for a couple .. just to spend the nights there .. cheaper than the Prermier Inn I guess .. much cheaper in fact
That's exceptionally good value for Butlin's and I've been in the Shoreline Hotel myself a few years ago on a family holiday; I'd say it's the equivalent of a better 3 star normal hotel. It's also at the edge of the camp against the sea front - probably worth paying extra to guarantee a sea view room...
 
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Yes, when visiting family in Cornwall we've often found staying for 3 nights at a caravan park is often much chepaer than booking a Travelodge / Premier Inn for the same amount of time and also has the benefit of free swimming / cooking facilities so we don't have to eat out every night. Oh and bingo ;) We're usually able to get a Friday to Monday off-peak for around £120 or so. Often we find that even if we're only staying Friday to Sunday, it's cheaper paying for the 3 nights rather than 2 in the PI.
 

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I am looking at Travelodge's for next week as my plans have changed. On quite a few hotels I am looking at it gives me a price on the first screen for the dates I want to stay but when I click on check availability the prices are significantly more. I am not sure if this is a bug on their system but I would say that is bait switching and is illegal. I have noticed this in the past too, but today it seems to be happening in a lot of hotels I am looking at.

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Cardiff is a city that commands high prices. The Premier Inn Zip being a cheaper option, altough I think the location is poor.

I find Cardiff can be one of the cheapest UK cities to stay in considering the choice of high quality hotels. However there does need to be no major events on, I only ever go to Cardiff if there are no events happening. Last time I was there I paid about £60 a night for a very good Premier Inn, it was actually a very good hotel by PI standards.
 

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I am looking at Travelodge's for next week as my plans have changed. On quite a few hotels I am looking at it gives me a price on the first screen for the dates I want to stay but when I click on check availability the prices are significantly more. I am not sure if this is a bug on their system but I would say that is bait switching and is illegal. I have noticed this in the past too, but today it seems to be happening in a lot of hotels I am looking at.

I've never seen this so I would expect it is a bug. Suggest reporting it to them.

I assume it's not just that the non-flexible rate is shown on the first screen and the flexible rate is at the top on the next screen? I'm fairly sure it's that way to encourage you to take the more expensive flexible rate, but if you scroll down the non-flexible rate should be there.
 

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I've never seen this so I would expect it is a bug. Suggest reporting it to them.

I assume it's not just that the non-flexible rate is shown on the first screen and the flexible rate is at the top on the next screen? I'm fairly sure it's that way to encourage you to take the more expensive flexible rate, but if you scroll down the non-flexible rate should be there.

It is, but all the options are far more expensive than the one on the first screen. It is not happening on every hotel but a fair few of them, it is frustrating as I still need to book a couple of nights in London next week. Update: Just checked again and the bug now appears to be correct, I am guessing it might have been a cache issue. E.g the results page was cached from a previous screen so didn't pull the most recent data from the database.

Second update, I just had the same problem so I cleared the cache on the page and then refreshed it, the prices suddenly went up. It seems I have chosen a bad day to book the hotel :(. I was gambling and it has back fired.
 
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I am looking at Travelodge's for next week as my plans have changed. On quite a few hotels I am looking at it gives me a price on the first screen for the dates I want to stay but when I click on check availability the prices are significantly more. I am not sure if this is a bug on their system but I would say that is bait switching and is illegal. I have noticed this in the past too, but today it seems to be happening in a lot of hotels I am looking at.

I've seen this happen a few times at their hotels in central York over the last year or so, fortunately only when I've been browsing and not seriously needing to book somewhere.

I can't now recall it happening for their hotels anywhere else, but maybe I've forgotten an odd instance.

I thought about reporting it, but never actually did so.
 

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I read on this thread several weeks ago about prices being shown, but then if you look again soon afterwards using the same web browser the prices have increased ... as if to make you think 'rooms are going fast, so better book now'

The writer mentioned that if you use a different web browser, the prices do not change at all.
 

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Well the 5 night stay at Premier Inn I booked late last night I woke up this morning to find was £50 cheaper so that was certainly something!

Pretty annoying really, I could have booked the Flex or Semi Flex at a considerable extra cost to Standard but then you run the risk of the price on the Standard not coming down between booking and stay so you've just throw away the extra money that way instead...I did consider changing my booked days forward a day then back again to see if that would fool the system but thought better of doing so in the end :D
 

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I am looking at Travelodge's for next week as my plans have changed. On quite a few hotels I am looking at it gives me a price on the first screen for the dates I want to stay but when I click on check availability the prices are significantly more. I am not sure if this is a bug on their system but I would say that is bait switching and is illegal. I have noticed this in the past too, but today it seems to be happening in a lot of hotels I am looking at.

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I have never encountered this. I do a generic location search, it brings up a list of hotels in the area, I click on one (or right click to open in a new window and keep the original search) and the prices are the same, albeit as @Bletchleyite said, there are many rates (more expensive) displayed representing more flexible rates or plus rooms etc.
 

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It is a cache issue, I just tried to cancel a flexible booking due to my plans changing (I had already booked a different TL for an extra night) but it couldn't find my booking and kept asking me to fill out the form again. I tried a different browser and the booking was there and it allowed me to cancel it.
 

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Well the 5 night stay at Premier Inn I booked late last night I woke up this morning to find was £50 cheaper so that was certainly something!

Pretty annoying really, I could have booked the Flex or Semi Flex at a considerable extra cost to Standard but then you run the risk of the price on the Standard not coming down between booking and stay so you've just throw away the extra money that way instead...I did consider changing my booked days forward a day then back again to see if that would fool the system but thought better of doing so in the end :D
On an anecdotal basis, I find the flex rate doesn't change that much. It seems to be set and stays there from months ahead right up to the line. Perhaps if a big event is announced and bookings go through the roof it might. You pay for the flexibility of course. I have previously booked a room at the flex rate to secure a room more than 59 days ahead, then cancelled and re-booked at the semi-flex rate when that comes into play. I see little benefit in the Advance rate that you have to cancel 28 days ahead for a refund (not a date swap).
 

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I am looking at Travelodge's for next week as my plans have changed. On quite a few hotels I am looking at it gives me a price on the first screen for the dates I want to stay but when I click on check availability the prices are significantly more. I am not sure if this is a bug on their system but I would say that is bait switching and is illegal. I have noticed this in the past too, but today it seems to be happening in a lot of hotels I am looking at.
I noticed this happened for the first time earlier this year, and I've seen it a few times now. Mostly the difference was small, and on at least one occasion, the price on the second (individual hotel) screen was lower than on the first (summary) screen. I put it down to different refresh conditions between the two webpages, but it does seem to have been a recent development.
 

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I read on this thread several weeks ago about prices being shown, but then if you look again soon afterwards using the same web browser the prices have increased ... as if to make you think 'rooms are going fast, so better book now'

The writer mentioned that if you use a different web browser, the prices do not change at all.
Or use 'Privacy' mode so that the cookies are not stored and updated to show that you have been looking....
 

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Tuesday is the busiest day - "in the office"/business travel days are increasingly Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday, meaning Tuesday and Wednesday are the busiest hotel nights in business areas (Friday and Saturday in touristy areas, obviously).

Least busy are usually Thursday (business travellers gone home, tourists not arrived yet) and Sunday (tourists gone home, business travellers not arrived yet) though that Monday above is surprisingly cheap I'd expect it to be cheaper than Tuesday.
Conversely, but maybe because of the Bank Holiday, I have seen some hotels particularly around Liverpool to be more expensive on the Sunday night than the Bank Holiday night. I therefore lost interest in staying the night, but split them into 2 non-adjoining day trips instead.

Easter Sunday does tend to be better value though.
 

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Conversely, but maybe because of the Bank Holiday, I have seen some hotels particularly around Liverpool to be more expensive on the Sunday night than the Bank Holiday night. I therefore lost interest in staying the night, but split them into 2 non-adjoining day trips instead.

Easter Sunday does tend to be better value though.
Most likely, bank holiday Sundays still have tourists staying. The Monday night tends to be cheaper than usual on bank holiday weekends
 

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Strange pricing on Travelodge for Cardiff, some City centre hotels are around £80 yet others are double for one night. One was over £300.
 

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Strange pricing on Travelodge for Cardiff, some City centre hotels are around £80 yet others are double for one night. One was over £300.
Most likely the ones which are a lot more money haven't got many rooms left due to a large group booking?
 

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Early Arrival / Late Departure Bag Storage

I am just wondering whether any folk here have had good or bad experiences with bag storage if arriving at the hotel early and storage if leaving late (after the official check out time)

My wife and I have been to several Premier Inns, all over the UK and on EVERY occasion (except one) we have been able to leave our bags in the hotel prior to the 15:00 check-in time and have also stored them on our final day, after check-out until near the time of our train home. Hotel staff have always been brilliant .. the only exception was at Liverpool One P.I and even that was only one time out of 3 visits.

So we are pretty sure P.I. are happy to offer this service.

However, we may consider staying at a Travelodge, but having never stayed there before I am wondering whether bag storage is usually OK here too.
 

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However, we may consider staying at a Travelodge, but having never stayed there before I am wondering whether bag storage is usually OK here too.
None of the Travelodges offer bag storage of the last 8 I have used - they’ll want to charge you for early of late check-in/out as ‘we don’t store bags’!
 

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Stayed in Travelodge last night that had unattended paid lockers if you wanted to leave your bags. First time I've seen that!
 

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Early Arrival / Late Departure Bag Storage

I am just wondering whether any folk here have had good or bad experiences with bag storage if arriving at the hotel early and storage if leaving late (after the official check out time)

My wife and I have been to several Premier Inns, all over the UK and on EVERY occasion (except one) we have been able to leave our bags in the hotel prior to the 15:00 check-in time and have also stored them on our final day, after check-out until near the time of our train home. Hotel staff have always been brilliant .. the only exception was at Liverpool One P.I and even that was only one time out of 3 visits.

So we are pretty sure P.I. are happy to offer this service.

However, we may consider staying at a Travelodge, but having never stayed there before I am wondering whether bag storage is usually OK here too.
Yes. Used this facility at Premier Inn two weeks go in Glasgow. Staff happily facilitated it. It was v handy. Used on check out day until c4pm

Last year at Eastleigh Travelodge we booked early check in but arrived too early. Had to go round corner with luggage to a cafe until check in time.
 

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Arrived at TL Bullring Birmingham a few weeks ago at 1445. Was asked if I had booked early check in which I had not. The receptionist stated she could check me in but I couldn’t have the room key until 1500 unless I coughed up £12. I declined and she told us to take a seat in the restaurant area and come back for the key at 1500.
i returned to reception at the said time and there was a queue right out the door with people waiting to check in, so had to queue up for about 20 mins to get our key, just as well it wasn’t raining. Couldnt believe they couldn’t give me the key having checked me in for the sake of 15 mins considering the room must have been ready.
 

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Thank you for the replies .. I think we'll stick with Premier Inn.

Yes, there's a website which I learnt about from this forum where you can store bags, often at hotels. For a medium bag, this works out at £6.49 per bag for any length of time (up to a day) and £5.49 for a backpack.

So, for a couple, with two cases and a backpack, an early arrival and a later departure could end costing 2 x 2 x £6.49 plus 2 x £5.49 = £36.49

For maybe only a few hours ... NO THANKS !
 

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Arrived at TL Bullring Birmingham a few weeks ago at 1445. Was asked if I had booked early check in which I had not. The receptionist stated she could check me in but I couldn’t have the room key until 1500 unless I coughed up £12. I declined and she told us to take a seat in the restaurant area and come back for the key at 1500.
i returned to reception at the said time and there was a queue right out the door with people waiting to check in, so had to queue up for about 20 mins to get our key, just as well it wasn’t raining. Couldnt believe they couldn’t give me the key having checked me in for the sake of 15 mins considering the room must have been ready.
The problem over time is “discretion creep”. Using your example (but not about you, if you see what I mean). Discretion is given and you get the key 15 minutes early. Where do you draw the line? 16 minutes, 20? 45? Eventually you start getting people relying on getting room access early (because “they always do”) and not getting it, causing more aggro in the end than sticking to the only logical deadline, which is the published one.
That said, I’d probably have felt exactly as you did!
 

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The problem over time is “discretion creep”. Using your example (but not about you, if you see what I mean). Discretion is given and you get the key 15 minutes early. Where do you draw the line? 16 minutes, 20? 45? Eventually you start getting people relying on getting room access early (because “they always do”) and not getting it, causing more aggro in the end than sticking to the only logical deadline, which is the published one.
That said, I’d probably have felt exactly as you did!
It's what other hotels have been doing for years without any issues. The difference here seems to be that they've identified a basic part of the normal service, which doesn't cost them anything, but which they can charge you for. They're leaning hard into a Ryanair model, which is alright bit definitely isn't for everyone
 

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It's what other hotels have been doing for years without any issues. The difference here seems to be that they've identified a basic part of the normal service, which doesn't cost them anything, but which they can charge you for. They're leaning hard into a Ryanair model, which is alright bit definitely isn't for everyone

On balance I prefer it. Before you'd have no idea if you could check in early or not, and my success rate was well under 50% at PI. Now you can pay to do so and it's reasonably likely* that you can. A bit like getting the exit row on a flight.

I'm actually slightly surprised they don't charge for the luggage storage given the low cost model.

Of course full service hotels still exist if you want that. Unlike shorthaul airlines** they haven't all moved to the low cost style model.

* Obviously can't be 100% guaranteed as they don't know when people in the rooms will leave.
** Probably because people don't just prioritise cost with hotels - it's more of a luxury good than a simple "A to B" service. For those who do prioritise cost alone there's Travelodge and hostels (and camping).
 

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It's what other hotels have been doing for years without any issues. The difference here seems to be that they've identified a basic part of the normal service, which doesn't cost them anything, but which they can charge you for. They're leaning hard into a Ryanair model, which is alright bit definitely isn't for everyone
The basic part of the normal service is to permit check-in from the time stated when you booked. No more; no less.
 

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