Report of collision Bedford (Elstow) - 19/06/26

[AlterEgo]

The 810 was hiding just around a corner then which may explain the lack of slowing or horn use from the 360.

 

[bramling]

(Image of the crash scene looking north, with class 810 front visible in the middleground just north of a signal gantry)

It is fair to say that this is another incident that could be ended up being even worse than it already has been, had a train been passing on the down fast at the time.

The track and signalling layout in the whole Bedford area is complex, and essentially dates from a time when the area was handling a much less intense service than it today does. Whatever the immediate cause, one can guarantee that the root causes will be complex.

 

[reduke]

Given that I've just learned that the driver of the train i was probably going to take on the way home tonight has probably died, I am taking a few minutes to pause and reflect.

 

[ScottGallagher]

(Image of the crash scene looking north, with class 810 front visible in the middleground just north of a signal gantry)

Forgive me if ive misunderstood the discussion, but does this suggest plausibly that the 810 derailed and was then stationary and the 360 didnt get the message so to speak or the collision itself caused the derailment?

 

[AlterEgo]

Forgive me if ive misunderstood the discussion , but does this suggest plausibly that the 810 derailed and was then stationary and the 360 didnt get the message so to speak or the collision itself caused the derailment?

The 810 was stopped due to an AWS fault, and the derailment has likely happened as a result of the collision.

 

[XCTurbostar]

Condolences to all those affected including the driver and those travelling. I hope we can work together to learn from the lessons this incident provides.

 

[Trainguy34]

Forgive me if ive misunderstood the discussion , but does this suggest plausibly that the 810 derailed and was then stationary and the 360 didnt get the message so to speak or the collision itself caused the derailment?

The 810 was stationary reporting an AWS fault, then the 360 ran into the back of it somehow, and the momentum as a result caused the 810 to shift forward and, in this case, partially derail.

 

[NSE]

Forgive me if ive misunderstood the discussion , but does this suggest plausibly that the 810 derailed and was then stationary and the 360 didnt get the message so to speak or the collision itself caused the derailment?

Could be either at this time. It’s impossible to say. Both are plausible but so are many other things.

 

[milooo]

The BBC have just very sadly confirmed a fatality on their broadcast

 

[Tomos y Tanc]

Thoughts are with everybody involved, and those at EMR this evening at Control, customer services and on platforms.

Fingers crossed the message from The Times and "believed" is all it is.

My thoughts are with everyone involved. As a working journalist. the words 'believed' and 'locally identified as' are generally used when something is known to be correct but has yet to be officially confirmed.

My concern with The Times story isn't so much with its accuracy but whether they have made checks to ensure that next of kin have been informed before publishing.

 

[Harpo]

Forgive me if ive misunderstood the discussion , but does this suggest plausibly that the 810 derailed and was then stationary and the 360 didnt get the message so to speak or the collision itself caused the derailment?

If all is normal, one train following another gets its information from the signalling, lights on sticks here or in cab displays on other systems. No other messages involved unless there’s a ‘REC’ emergency message instructing everything to stop.

 

[devon_belle]

Sincere condolences. Rest in peace.

 

[NSEWonderer]

The BBC have just very sadly confirmed a fatality

The state of the 360 cab leads me to sadly suspect who. Prayes to all involved. Real bad incident. Does anyone know the speed of those points from the US to UF?

 

[Steddenm]

Sad news being reported by the BTP on the BBC News Channel where they are saying one person has died.

 

[johnnymo]

AIUI, given that the 360s run at max 110mph, they don’t need the pointy noses.

Nevertheless, as others have said, a huge tragedy and thoughts with all those affected.

EU regulation (yes they are still in effect) less than 200kph (195kph = 118mph, generally designated 110mph in the UK) are normal trains, 200kph (124mph) and above are high speed trains with enhanced safely such as bigger crumple zones.

 

[E100]

Thoughts with everyone involved and glad this wasn’t worse at the same time. It appears to have a been a pretty high energy impact and it’s a credit to modern design.

On traksy I notice the label CLIP is applied. Is this closed line in possession?

 

[hexagon789]

Does anyone know the speed of those points from the US to UF?

50mph IIRC

 

[devon_belle]

The BBC have quoted the full BTP report. They confirm some details of the crash and the fatality. Tragic news. Link:

Nine people in critical condition among 100 injured in fatal collision

A driver was killed in the collision between the 16:40 train from Corby and 15:50 service from Nottingham on Friday.

www.bbc.co.uk

"Officers are continuing to respond to a collision between two trains on the line in Bedford, following reports around 5.15pm today (19 June).

"We know that a number of people have been injured and one person has very sadly died.

"A major incident has been declared, and officers are continuing to respond at the scene alongside colleagues from Bedfordshire Police and the local Fire and Rescue and Ambulance Services.

"The collision involved two East Midlands Railway trains.

"Deputy Chief Constable Stuart Cundy said: "We've declared a major incident and a significant emergency service response is ongoing. We're working at pace to establish exactly what's happened and will provide further information as soon as we are able to".

"'Officers from British Transport Police and Bedfordshire Police are on scene with colleagues from the local authority to assist any members of the public concerned about loved ones.'"

BEWARE the live feed has footage from inside the train which is quite intense (and mods asked not to be posted here).

 

[NSEWonderer]

50mph IIRC

Ah makes sense

 

[Trainguy34]

Extremely sad news being reported by the BBC, my thoughts are with everyone involved, including (but not limited to), control staff, station staff, emergency services, staff on the trains, passengers involved in the collision and, of course, the unfortunate fatality.

 

[Siemens Staines]

It is fair to say that this is another incident that could be ended up being even worse than it already has been, had a train been passing on the down fast at the time.

Although from the times at Bedford South Jn it looks like 5Z14 (360114?) was passing on the Down Slow very close to the time that the collision occurred

 

[LeeG05]

Thoughts are with everyone involved in this tragic incident. A sad day for the railway indeed. Condolences also to the person who has tragically died, and to their family, friends and colleagues in what will be a very difficult time.

 

[Freightmaster]

On traksy I notice the label CLIP is applied. Is this closed line in possession?

Track circuit operating clip:

 

[w0033944]

Dreadful to hear of the fatality.

 

[stevieinselby]

That 360 looks like hell. The impact from that must have been massive to do that much damage to the ends of the coaches.

Crumple zones working as intended. They are designed to squidge up at key points in the vehicle that don't have passengers in, to absorb the impact and reduce the deceleration force experienced by the rest of the train (and passengers).

My biggest fear is about CrossCountry trains. A huge accident waiting to happen if a packed voyager crashed. I’ve been on ones where you can’t even raise your arms.

There are circumstances where that might be an advantage. One of the biggest risk factors in a collision is standing passengers being sent flying and then hitting something hard. If you can only move a couple of inches before bumping into someone then that reduces the risk of a hard impact – you might get more people with bumps and bruises but fewer with serious injuries. On the other hand, the more overcrowded the train is, the longer it is going to take to evacuate everyone and triage any injuries, so on balance any theoretical reduction in risk is probably offset by other factors.

 

[westcoaster]

Thoughts with everyone involved and glad this wasn’t worse at the same time. It appears to have a been a pretty high energy impact and it’s a credit to modern design.

On traksy I notice the label CLIP is applied. Is this closed line in possession?

Track circuit operating clips (emergency protection) is my guess. One of the first thing a driver must do is place these down on any obstructed line.

 

[357]

Thoughts with everyone involved and glad this wasn’t worse at the same time. It appears to have a been a pretty high energy impact and it’s a credit to modern design.

On traksy I notice the label CLIP is applied. Is this closed line in possession?

Track Circuit Operating CLIPs - devices put down on the lines to ensure the signalling system thinks there is a train there, meaning signals stay at danger.

Commonly used in emergency situations

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Crumple zones working as intended. They are designed to squidge up at key points in the vehicle that don't have passengers in, to absorb the impact and reduce the deceleration force experienced by the rest of the train (and passengers).

The cab is not a crumple zone.

 

[43096]

Thoughts with everyone involved and glad this wasn’t worse at the same time. It appears to have a been a pretty high energy impact and it’s a credit to modern design.

On traksy I notice the label CLIP is applied. Is this closed line in possession?

Or could be where one of the crew (presumably from the 810) has applied track circuit operating clips to protect the line.

 

[E100]

Thanks for the replies.

 

[43096]

50mph IIRC

Correct, as per the Sectional Appendix; extract below.