At least it's going from an even 4 tph and an additional 2 tph to an even 4 tph, rather than trains every ten minutes with two twenty-minute gaps per hour.
Fourteen minutes to change from Milton Keynes stoppers onto Oxford services at Bletchley, and eighteen minutes the other direction (assuming no southern LNR changes).
It looks like two 15 minute gaps per hour to me?
Yes I much prefer the every 15 minutes even interval to an irregular pattern. The Cross City timetable in Birmingham is one that has irritated me no end since it was reduced during the pandemic. I understand the reasons why here but its still a difficult read.
I mean that it's currently two 15 minute gaps per hour with the Rainham services in the other portions, and from December will be near enough four tph, 15 minutes apart.
Is that merely "in the case that" GWR's objection doesn't stand, or does it suggest TfW has won the argument?Not sure if it's been brought up: but looking at RTT it appears TfW's Bristol paths have been incorporated into the timetable.
Example above.Realtime Trains | 1R01 0834 Cardiff Central to Bristol Temple Meads | 13/12/2026
Real-time train running information for 1R01 0834 departure from Cardiff Central to Bristol Temple Meads on 13/12/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.www.realtimetrains.co.uk
Its offered, but there is still going to be tweaking done. Its still in its response phase for operators.
Bear in mind that only a proportion of those Southern and Thameslink customers alighting will have come from Central London, there is a lot of business to Gatwick from the Croydon area and obviously TL serves multiple alternate London stations instead of Victoria.
A sizeable number will have got on at stations other than Victoria. Stansted Express can’t charge a premium as such as there are no other services for the premium to be “over and above”.
It also depends where those passengers are heading to. Thameslink serves London Bridge & the Elizabeth line at Farringdon, and regular Southern services serve Clapham Junction (interchange with SWR services etc). Even if there was no premium fares some passengers will still not use it as they don't want to head to London Victoria.
Yes it does replace the 1529. Calls at Runcorn (where it becomes a diesel multiple unit), Lichfield Trent Valley and Tamworth
Would also be interesting to know how many passengers arriving from Gatwick at Victoria by Southern have in fact paid the premium fare, either without realising or, having done so, then discovered that catching a GX entails waiting on a chilly platform for 20 minutes. Less of an issue if the interval is 15 minutes and the next train is always waiting (as either the original GatEx).
Yes its being added to the 1514 Manchester Piccadilly - London Euston service
Stansted does effectively charge a de facto premium as fares from Stanstead Airport are far more expensive than fares from Bishop's Stortford.
The off-peak day singles are £14 vs £21 from Stansted Airport vs Mountfitchet to Liverpool Street (or a more equal £17.70 vs £23 for anytime day singles); to Cambridge, anytime day singles are £13.80 vs £14 with Mountfitchet being cheaper again.
Will these each be at 2tph also? Or 1tph?
