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Walthamstow - Track Fault
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10mph temporary speed restriction due to cracked rail on the high speed crossover (h/t @Dstock7080 ).
Fantastic news - thanks. Frequency not bad all things considered, but for me I really felt it on the evening peak where there were 3-5 min gaps at Victoria last couple of days, had a bit of a wait to get onto the platform this evening!
SECR 65
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How would control deal with this? My instinct (with limited practical knowledge of the line, but a fair amount of theoretical knowledge of the Underground) would be to turn back every 3 or 4 trains at Severn Sisters?
On the Victoria, it seems an end-to-end reduced service is favoured in the event of any issues?
I've never been to Severn Sisters. Isn't there a middle platform there where reversing would be fairly easy?
On the Victoria, it seems an end-to-end reduced service is favoured in the event of any issues?
I've never been to Seve
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Dstock7080
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There is a central platform at Seven Sisters on the Victoria Line, however trains cannot simply return southbound, they must shunt forward into two sidings/depot reception roads (62, 63) to return into southbound pfm.5
SECR 65
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Thank you for explaining the shunts, and for correcting my spelling. It's amazing that I've never noticed that. Now, looking at the tube map, which I've spent so many hours looking at, I can't unsee it!
EDIT: Of course I'm being completely foolish, and there is no R in the number seven. When typing, I'm more commonly writing Severn Valley Railway, hence I automatically did so here.
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tripleseis
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Still a bit of a mess this morning but there's now also a track fault at Brixton. One little thing (in this case: 2) and whole thing falls apart. Been pretty frustrating using it this week.
_toommm_
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The four minute gaps in the evening peak are absolute killers. It leaves people behind regularly in the core section between Victoria and Euston (and vice versa).
Dave W
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Wife did this yesterday - the AM was unbearable but, probably because people had clocked it, the PM was a much quieter affair. Is the Brixton issue slightly less crippling than the Walthamstow one?
Seems to be similar - trains every 4 minutes roughly.
leonie13
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Essentially, the intensity of the Victoria Line (together with stepping-back at both ends of the line) means when something does go wrong, it's very hard to get the line back to timetable. Particularly with the nature of the faults at Walthamstow and Brixton (lasting all day), it's preferable to introduce a reduced "special service", and get rid of stepping back. Train Operators are put on trains ad-hoc for a period of time.
Whilst the gaps of 4/5 minutes are a pain for the customers, it means control don't have to worry about the lateness of each train, and simply concentrate on regulating the service as best as they can.
SECR 65
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Right I see, thank you.
It makes sense not to be clinging onto a wrecked timetable.
I do feel for the controllers who have to deal with this. My idea of fun though - I'm hoping I might be able to get into or consider getting into control in the future!
I suspect there is some variation from site to site but some form of common design "range" would make sense.
I believe they do wear out and require replacement so would have thought they could hold the "next" one in stock as spare, but that may be contrary to modern logistics practice.
I believe they do wear out and require replacement so would have thought they could hold the "next" one in stock as spare, but that may be contrary to modern logistics practice.
Central
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Very intense service,train every 90seconds.
Dreadful journey tonight travelling southbound from Warren Street, first train arrived and terminated, after a few minutes proceeded wrong way to Seven Sisters. Next train then arrived, but terminated at Victoria and went wrong way to Seven Sisters again. Not great at the best of times but especially not with the longer gaps between trains, people were getting left behind on the platforms
I'm glad they've been quite transparent with the fact that we're on a significantly reduced timetable - personally at least has helped with my planning and expectations (I have a half hourly connection most of the day at Seven Sisters so this means I can't cut it fine with trying to make this connection). I had a long wait today northbound at Vauxhall of around 8 minutes and the platform was already busy. The southbound morning peak has been slow, held at the top of the escalators at Seven Sisters as the platforms were just getting so busy so quickly, and the trains are busier and slow to clear the crowds.
Is this still likely to be sorted for early this week? Any updates would be much appreciated
Is this still likely to be sorted for early this week? Any updates would be much appreciated
kitchenoven
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Victoria line seems to be suspended between Victoria and Brixton at the moment due to a signal failure - so "fixed" in one regard but broken in another? Will further upset the Vauxhall and South London commuters in the morning rush for sure if service doesn't resume.
Victoria Line not having much luck! A points failure at Walthamstow today, causing suspension Seven Sisters to Walthamstow earlier and severe delays now. I assume this is entirely unrelated to the earlier track fault and just two failures coming in quick succession?
I risked the line earlier and they were trying their best to keep services spaced out.
I risked the line earlier and they were trying their best to keep services spaced out.