Eyersey468
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Stock vehicles for the x46, there's 11 coming in total
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Will the old ones be going on local services
YorkRailFan
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West Yorkshire (specifically Cleckheaton) are getting Evoras not E400 MMCs.
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stevieinselby
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Have they still got the cycle space, do you know, or has that been dropped from the new order?
TheGrandWazoo
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If they're dealer stock, they'll not have it so would need to be modified.
Eyersey468
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No they don't have the bike racks
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There is talk of some of the 92x being cascaded onto the x45
Yes, that's what I heard too. Makes sense to get the older stuff off the X45.
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It certainly does. There's also rumours of some going to Scarborough for Coaster
Zenneth101
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Wonder if they'll do an X45 and have EastRider decals on their White base
Does this signal the winding down of the whole EastRider ‘experience’? The X46/47 has always been the flagship EastRider but is now getting dealer stock buses permanently allocated. Once the Plaxton Centros go, the X45 and Hornsea services will be ran by normal buses, the 41 just uses repainted buses with no interior refurbishment, the 55 always seems to have one EastRider and one normal G2 allocated. The 75/X7 will be the final service to have a full proper EastRider allocation.
* by ‘experience’ I am referencing the refurbished seats, red lighting, interior branding, tables etc.
* by ‘experience’ I am referencing the refurbished seats, red lighting, interior branding, tables etc.
Zenneth101
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The paint scheme itself is now just a base aswell
Look at such brands as Hornsea locals, Beverley locals, Goole locals, Coaster, all using the EastRider base with no real luxury.
Its becoming a shell of what it first was, not helped by dealer stock and incorrect allocation (by this i mean the 41 using mostly normal colour buses)
And what happened to 141, 43, 24 and 25 being EastRider branded routes?
Edit: I rode the 41 a few Sundays ago and instead of a EvoSeti from 2017, I got a Volvo E400 from 2007
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Hopefully if they have any common sense they'll just scrap all these brands and have just one name and livery, makes it significantly easier to transfer vehicles where needed for a start without confusing anybody. After all the sight of an East Yorkshire vehicle on a route in West Yorkshire must be confusing for anyone not in the know, I wonder if anyone let those East Yorkshire buses go recently on the 615 or 571 thinking it wasn't there bus? I wonder if anyone on the 84 thought 'not another change of operator' when they saw Scarborough Locals instead of North Riding written on the side, it does happen!
You don't need all this branding as First have demonstrated recently, people just need a clean bus to turn up on time and be quick at getting them to where they want to be, you can have all the vehicle branding you like but if the bus isn't going to meet those targets, it's pointless! I'd rather Go Ahead just concentrated on first of all reliability and cleanliness, then focused on speed (some routes take the mick with all the meandering) and finally turn to vehicle livery.
You don't need all this branding as First have demonstrated recently, people just need a clean bus to turn up on time and be quick at getting them to where they want to be, you can have all the vehicle branding you like but if the bus isn't going to meet those targets, it's pointless! I'd rather Go Ahead just concentrated on first of all reliability and cleanliness, then focused on speed (some routes take the mick with all the meandering) and finally turn to vehicle livery.
YorkRailFan
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If the rumours are true, then the X45 will get the current X46/47 vehicles so will still have the EastRider 'experience' like the refurbished seats, tables, etc. The dealer stock E200 MMCs originally allocated to the route (now in West Yorkshire) had nothing EastRider about them apart from the decals.
Why? If they're using the current X46/47 vehicles, those already have the EastRider base livery so a change in branding for the route would be needed but not a new livery necessarily.
Realistically, EY should just have the main branding, North Riding, West Yorkshire (which will be phased out in the coming years anyway with Weaver Network), Coaster and Beachcomber. They'll also have the Green livery for the Electrics. EastRider should only really be maintained if it remains a 'Premium' offering. All the Locals liveries are redundant at this point as they often end up on other sides of the County!
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It does feel as though the whole East Yorkshire red and cream identity is slowly being eroded. A non-enthusiast friend of mine traveled on one of the new Electroliners yesterday and said inside the bus gave Stagecoach vibes (blue seats and wall accents), although I appreciate that these were probably placed as part of a wider Go-Ahead order and having them all the same spec was a way to reduce cost and delivery times.
This can also be seen with the new blue uniforms and social media branding style.
This can also be seen with the new blue uniforms and social media branding style.
Pyewipecarshed
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I suspect the use of stock buses is to speed up replacement of the current MMC's on the X46/X47 which, as stated frequently in this very thread, are becoming extremely unreliable.
In the short term I'm sure passengers will welcome a bus that can make it to York or Hull without breaking down; the interior spec can be dealt with later.
In the short term I'm sure passengers will welcome a bus that can make it to York or Hull without breaking down; the interior spec can be dealt with later.
Totally agree.
Is it generic (like the interior of Alexander Dennis stock buses, which is usually blue) or is it a nod to the past? After all the traditional EY livery (pre-National Bus Company) was blue, and the buses usually featured blue inside.
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Yesterday evening, I saw one of the new electrics on it's way through the city centre back to the interchange on a 24 from Hornsea!
On the subject of the new 'dealer stock' MMCs, I know this might seem obvious (I'm only asking because on another thread someone said they rode on an operator's new 26 plate MMC without audio visual announcements even being installed) but do they have audio visual and pre fitted or is this something that will have to be fitted later?
Willerby Road, EYMS Hull buses services 51 & 35
Anyone any experiences with these Hull services. Been bad for of 18 months. I have made over 70 complaints and reported over 100 services to the DVSA. I have been in contact with MP Emma Hardy and Mayor Luke Campbell. I have had personal e-mails direct from Mr Fillingham and over 200.00 in fare refunds. Yet still, the services do not improve. Just wondered if anyone had any thoughts or similar issues with EYMS Hull Buses.
Anyone any experiences with these Hull services. Been bad for of 18 months. I have made over 70 complaints and reported over 100 services to the DVSA. I have been in contact with MP Emma Hardy and Mayor Luke Campbell. I have had personal e-mails direct from Mr Fillingham and over 200.00 in fare refunds. Yet still, the services do not improve. Just wondered if anyone had any thoughts or similar issues with EYMS Hull Buses.
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I assume 698, 705 and 348 will be going soon as well due to the age of them
20940 is on road tracking as spare hull 7, there’s also the missing 20945 somewhere.
Is there any idea what happened to 20818, got painted around Christmas and nothing since
20945 won’t be here for a while yet, all the new X46/47 vehicles will be out before it’s even arrived.
As far as I’m aware (information is from mid April though) 20818/24/27/32/33/34 are all being stored at Scarborough. Some have had minor work done to them already.
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Can I ask what complaints you have made? If it is about non-running of services then these routes are ones which are often sacrificed to ensure the running of more profitable routes or to carry out school contract works.
YorkRailFan
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EY Enthusiasts reports the following:
A further four E400 MMCs are reported to have been delivered. The registrations and fleet numbers are reported to be the following:
20946 - YY26 FKJ
20947 - YY26 FKL
20948 - YY26 FKM
20949 - YY26 FKN
20950 - YY26 FKO
20951 - YY26 FKP
20953 - YY26 FKS
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A further four E400 MMCs are reported to have been delivered. The registrations and fleet numbers are reported to be the following:
20946 - YY26 FKJ
20947 - YY26 FKL
20948 - YY26 FKM
20949 - YY26 FKN
20950 - YY26 FKO
20951 - YY26 FKP
20953 - YY26 FKS
East Yorkshire Enthusiasts
East Yorkshire Buses fleet update... Further to yesterday's update with the news of the delivery of three ADL Enviro 400MMC's, registrations YY26 FKJ, YY26 FKL, & YY26 FKM. A further four are...
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EYFanatic
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I'm on the M1 and M3, as usual, and at Beverley another EYMS driver came over to ask our driver if she seen the new buses inside, our driver replied no and the other one said that the insides are like 97 - coach like seats and no tablesEY Enthusiasts reports the following:
A further four E400 MMCs are reported to have been delivered. The registrations and fleet numbers are reported to be the following:
20946 - YY26 FKJ
20947 - YY26 FKL
20948 - YY26 FKM
20949 - YY26 FKN
20950 - YY26 FKO
20951 - YY26 FKP
20953 - YY26 FKS
East Yorkshire Enthusiasts
East Yorkshire Buses fleet update... Further to yesterday's update with the news of the delivery of three ADL Enviro 400MMC's, registrations YY26 FKJ, YY26 FKL, & YY26 FKM. A further four are...
If thats the case, bit of a downgrade really as tables provide space for a picnic of sorts or the chance to get last minute work done on the long runs to York and back
YorkRailFan
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As stated upthread, they also don't have bike racks. Also stated upthread, these buses are likely being brought in so quickly to replace the increasingly unreliable E400 MMCs already on the route. The X46 now regularly has Gemini 2s and EvoSetis, both of which do not have tables or bike racks, so these new E400 MMCs are a downgrade in terms of the onboard facilities of the EastRider spec MMCs but are an upgrade in terms of reliability. These stock dealer MMCs will likely be an upgrade over the Gemini 2s and EvoSetis as well.
EYFanatic
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I must be very lucky as I've not had a G2 on the X46 for months now
YorkRailFan
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To be fair, I find the onboard experience of a standard EvoSeti to be very similar to the onboard experience of a standard Gemini 2. So far, I've only found 20816 to stand out in terms of onboard experience.
EYFanatic
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Just on a whim, I went to Companies House and noticed that the firm has a charge on it- is that serious?