rmHawk765
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Apologies, I misinterpreted this...Hit and run means someone has run from an accident. not a planned hit.
Apologies, I misinterpreted this...Hit and run means someone has run from an accident. not a planned hit.
Surprises me that Marston Lane doesn't have this. Considering that the A5 at Hinckley has girders either side for a line which isn't as busy (I think the line speed is 80mph over it).
It may well be, but it still isn't going to get them added to all bridges as someone will assess the risk vs the chances of it happening.False economy, a simple metal girder will cost far less than just the repair to this bridge alone, before you start to take into consideration the cost of disruption.
Excellent.It seems it was a skip lorry of some sort and the culprit was caught on dash cam before fleeing the scene in the vehicle. Hope a decent prison sentence awaits them.
It seems it was a skip lorry of some sort and the culprit was caught on dash cam before fleeing the scene in the vehicle. Hope a decent prison sentence awaits them.
It may well be, but it still isn't going to get them added to all bridges as someone will assess the risk vs the chances of it happening.
Its money.Seems odd to me given how risk averse the railway has become over the last few years.
NoDo Lumo even have diversionary route knowledge for this?
False economy, a simple metal girder will cost far less than just the repair to this bridge alone, before you start to take into consideration the cost of disruption.
A simple metal girder would not have stopped this. It needs to be substantial.
That's not necessarily true is it?
Or do you mean that whilst a girder would not have stopped this, it could have prevented it? (ie not forcibly stopped the vehicle but instead made the driver realise what was about to happen and stop)
Just bolting a girder up would not prevent the lorry from smashing through it and damaging the bridge. It may have mitigated the force somewhat.That's not necessarily true is it?
Or do you mean that whilst a girder would not have stopped this, it could have prevented it? (ie not forcibly stopped the vehicle but instead made the driver realise what was about to happen and stop)
Previous threads have suggested there’s a marked reluctance to fit them because of some strange reasoning that they are some sort of a hazard to road users.
False economy, a simple metal girder will cost far less than just the repair to this bridge alone, before you start to take into consideration the cost of disruption.
There are quite possibly all kinds of legal liability implications to deliberately putting an obstruction across the road, the sole purpose of which is to be hit by passing vehicles. Cameras and legal changes that mean that offending drivers and owners/operators of commercial vehicles face unlimited, uninsurable liability would probably be more chat effective.Just bolting a girder up would not prevent the lorry from smashing through it and damaging the bridge. It may have mitigated the force somewhat.
What you need to do is put a BIG girder up, and brace it substantially.
Previous threads have suggested there’s a marked reluctance to fit them because of some strange reasoning that they are some sort of a hazard to road users.
I agree 100%, but with the WCML being a fast route, maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to have them on bridges like this too. Just my opinion of courseThink about the traffic using the A5, versus a country lane. There is logic in it!
I go that way to see my Mum in Bedworth, and I have seen those 8x4 tipper trucks go over it. There is a small industrial estate too along Marston Lane.There is a hump back canal bridge with a 3 ton (mfr) weight limit the other side of Marston Jabbett making the village off limits to vehicles that are both tall and heavy.
Looks like part of the "Low Bridge" text signage is in amongst the debris between the beam with the chevrons on and the road surface. Presumably the offending vehicle has come from the other side anyway and ripped this beam out coming towards the camera.That's Marston Lane. It's a low bridge (3.6m / 12ft) although the signage seems to have gone missing, maybe dropped out of view. Must have been a big hit to carve that substantial fresh gouge out of the concrete over the centre of the road. Maybe a crane knuckle?
Just bolting a girder up would not prevent the lorry from smashing through it and damaging the bridge. It may have mitigated the force somewhat.
What you need to do is put a BIG girder up, and brace it substantially.
Surely the (a) 'deliberate' obstruction already exists in the form of a dirty great bridge, which will, by itself do some degree of damage to an overheight vehicle? How is adding a protective beam any worse from a roads point of view?There are quite possibly all kinds of legal liability implications to deliberately putting an obstruction across the road, the sole purpose of which is to be hit by passing vehicles. Cameras and legal changes that mean that offending drivers and owners/operators of commercial vehicles face unlimited, uninsurable liability would probably be more chat effective.
This is a huge incident where they will have an unbelievable amount of work shoved into their plate. They won’t have all the information as it is and they will a huge amount of work on their plate. That one specific train wasn’t cancelled in Darwin is understandable.Also, big shout out to who ever controls the customer information system at unstaffed stations such as Atherstone, the 1600 to Crewe was showing on time until 1600, then just delayed until about 1610 when it then vanished and the screen and just showed the 1700 to c Crewe on time...
Waggon's reg plate is legible in that !A couple more photos:
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Images show a collapsed bridge and the vehicle involved
It sure was thoughtful of them to have a private reg that spells the company name!Waggon's reg plate is legible in that !
I saw another picture online of that bridge collapsed with a lorry in it but the lorry seems to have disappeared , that will be a long repair job
A couple more photos:
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Images show a collapsed bridge and the vehicle involved
...and the skip company's name.Waggon's reg plate is legible in that !
Which adds substantial cost.Just bolting a girder up would not prevent the lorry from smashing through it and damaging the bridge. It may have mitigated the force somewhat.
What you need to do is put a BIG girder up, and brace it substantially.