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Looks like Scotsman and Torndado will be leaving on the 02/06, with a SLC/Railadventure light loco move planned in, arriving Hotchley Hill at 0959. Is coming from Kings Norton so may well be a pair of HSTs, here’s the timetable: https://live.rail-record.co.uk/train.php/?c=R45790&d=2026-06-02

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Just seen that Scotsman is due to go to the ELR from the 3rd June to the 14th June, and wondered whether she’ll go straight from GCRN to ELR, meaning that this HST service by rail adventure will be only to pick up Tornado, and that Tornado and Scotsman will not go out together. Would also make sense as to why it’s RailAdventure (Tornado’s usual operator) and not DB (FS’s usual operator and what they ran under on the way in).
RailAdventure handled the move of Moneypit to and from the Watercress line recently.
 

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GCRN have released their new Website now (a few days late), it looks nice, alongside it also came timings for Scotsman over the coming weeks, still no advertisement of the Reunification Weekend on the 11th/12th July though: https://www.gcrn.co.uk/
 

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Is there a way of determining what steam is allocated to what on the timetables?. Today on the GCR website it showed 2 locos in steam for the services this weekend but timetable works out for only a single needed. I'm sure the old website was clearer on the subject.
 

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No the website doesn't show this on standard operating days sadly. There will be one steam loco used for the passenger services and the second loco will work the footplate experience or goods experience and then drop onto the 1pm first class dining service.
 

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So tell me if l'm missing a piece, but why can't FS take herself on the mainline?
Lack of crew or knowledge or must be some other reason?
 

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If the support coach is mandatory on it’s mainline movements, then I guess you could say running LE is not allowed!
 

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If the support coach is mandatory on it’s mainline movements, then I guess you could say running LE is not allowed!
He was presumably referring to needing a diesel loco instead of a support coach, which is a bit of a given.
 

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Where’s its support coach?
Support coach is in the sidings in Ruddington at the moment, alongside the support coach for Tornado.
So tell me if l'm missing a piece, but why can't FS take herself on the mainline?
Lack of crew or knowledge or must be some other reason?
When Scotsman came into GCRN, the diesel was required to lead Scotsman and Tornado from Loughborough to 50-steps as it was deemed unsafe for them to shunt the stock backwards due to a lack of visibility mot likely, and they went in together because it was more convenient.

As for going out, it appears that Scotsman (and maybe Tornado for part of the journey) will be dragged out by HSTs, possibly because Scotsman will need to go North to ELR, so by reversing ends at Loughborough she would be tender first up the mainline, which does not usually happen, especially over long distances.
 

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I got to chat with some of the people in Ruddington who said it’s possible that Tornado may stay put at GCRN for a bit until its next needed, as it is going to Nene Valley in July, so it could well be that only Scotsman is hauled out next week back to NRM.
 

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If the support coach is mandatory on it’s mainline movements, then I guess you could say running LE is not allowed!
Support coaches aren't mandatory. But they are very useful to have especially if you're doing more than a short test run. Vintage have operated a fair few Tyseley to Stratford runs without a support coach. Example here with 9600.

 

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last year 60163 ran without one (I can’t remember why)
Support coaches aren't mandatory. But they are very useful to have especially if you're doing more than a short test run. Vintage have operated a fair few Tyseley to Stratford runs without a support coach. Example here with 9600.

 

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0Z53 02/06/26

07:15 Kings Norton ot plant dept to Hotchley Hill East Leake 09:59

Will this be something to do with Flying Scotsman moving to it's next place?
 

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0Z53 02/06/26

07:15 Kings Norton ot plant dept to Hotchley Hill East Leake 09:59

Will this be something to do with Flying Scotsman moving to it's next place?
Yes, a pair of Railadventure HSTs arriving to drag Scotsman out to East Lancs Railway.
 

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I've heard Ruddington has been subject to an act of vandalism. Four 'Barnum' coaches have been damaged or covered in graffiti with about £4000 in cost. Source: BBC
 

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I've heard Ruddington has been subject to an act of vandalism. Four 'Barnum' coaches have been damaged or covered in graffiti with about £4000 in cost. Source: BBC
Yes, I heard it was 3 of the remaining 4, and that they were quite close to finishing overhaul, truly a shame, couldn’t see them outside today, so must be in the shed being assessed.
 

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Just seen that for the GCR/GCRN ‘Mind the Gap’ weekend there is an activity that you can drive a HST simulator, I cannot seem to see anywhere if it needs pre-booking to prevent overcrowding on it, or whether it’s a ‘turn up and have a go’ thing.

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More news, GCRN have announced that Tornado will run one last passenger service before leaving for NVR on the 27th and 28th of this month, tickets will be just over £20 for an adult and £1 for a child, with footplate rides going for £199 and Observation car around £50, departing at 1230 and 1530: https://www.foxandedwards.com/events/view/ta-ra-tornado-nottinghamshire
 
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Is it mainline registered still or maybe 31128 to tow as heard both locos top and tailing at the GCR at weekend.
Hope it a successful work out as looking forward to it at KWVR gala next week.
 

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Is it mainline registered still or maybe 31128 to tow as heard both locos top and tailing at the GCR at weekend.
Hope it a successful work out as looking forward to it at KWVR gala next week.
Only 31210 is running at the GCRN on Sunday
 

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