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Class 175s to GWR

Apedlar12

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Bringback309s said:
Sorry if asked, I am sure someone put a list up on here but I cannot find it, a list of regular 175 diagrams on the Cornish main line?
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These should be the current diagrams involving passenger workings, but of course they are subject to change each day.

Mon-Fri:

2C00 05:33 PLY to PNZ
2E06 07:43 PNZ to EXD
2C20 11:27 EXD to PNZ
2P20 15:15 PNZ to PLY

3E05 05:40 PLY to EXD
2C05 06:55 EXD to PNZ
2E11 10:50 PNZ to EXD
2C32 15:28 EXD to PNZ
2E28 19:15 PNZ to EXD
5P28 22:56 EXD to XLZ

3N02 06:12 PLY to PAR
2N02 07:07 PAR to NQY
2N03 08:22 NQY to PAR
2N06 09:16 PAR to NQY
2N07 10:28 NQY to PAR
2N10 11:21 PAR to NQY
2N11 12:17 NQY to PAR
2N14 13:16 PAR to NQY
2N15 14:28 NQY to PAR
2N18 15:15 PAR to NQY
2N19 16:18 NQY to PAR
2N22 17:17 PAR to NQY
2N23 18:22 NQY to PAR
2N26 19:16 PAR to NQY
2N27 20:28 NQY to PAR
5P99 21:35 PAR to XLZ

2E04 08:49 PLY to EXD
2C18 10:27 EXD to PNZ
2P17 13:50 PNZ to PLY
2C31 15:56 PLY to PNZ
2P27 18:50 PNZ to PLY

2C26 13:39 PLY to PNZ
2P21 15:52 PNZ to PLY

Sat:

3E42 04:00 XLZ to EXD
2C42 08:00 EXD to PNZ
2P18 11:50 PNZ to PLY
2C53 14:43 PLY to PNZ
2P30 17:15 PNZ to PLY

2C05 05:15 PLY to PNZ
2P10 07:40 PNZ to PLY
2C49 12:42 PLY to PNZ
2P24 15:15 PNZ to PLY

5N02 05:26 PLY to PAR
2N02 07:03 PAR to NQY
2N03 08:12 NQY to PAR
2N06 09:05 PAR to NQY
2N07 10:10 NQY to PAR
2N10 11:30 PAR to NQY
2N11 12:31 NQY to PAR
2N14 13:38 PAR to NQY
2N15 14:47 NQY to PAR
2N20 16:22 PAR to NQY
2N21 17:40 NQY to PAR
2N24 18:34 PAR to NQY
2N25 19:38 NQY to PAR
2N28 20:32 PAR to NQY
2P97 21:24 NQY to PLY

3C12 06:20 XLZ to PNZ
2E12 08:50 PNZ to EXD
2C51 12:19 EXD to PNZ
2P26 15:50 PNZ to PLY

2C40 08:07 PLY to PNZ
2E16 10:39 PNZ to EXD
2P56 14:22 EXD to PLY
2C57 16:38 PLY to PNZ
2P95 19:30 PNZ to PLY

Sun:

2C06 08:45 PLY to PNZ
2E13 11:49 PNZ to EXD
2C32 15:27 EXD to PNZ
2P28 19:15 PNZ to PLY

5N08 08:59 PLY to PAR
2N08 10:12 PAR to NQY
2N09 11:18 NQY to PAR
2N16 14:38 PAR to NQY
2N19 15:52 NQY to PAR
2N22 17:15 PAR to NQY
2N23 18:16 NQY to PAR
2N26 19:35 PAR to NQY
2N27 20:29 NQY to PAR
5P27 21:45 PAR to XLZ

2C20 10:32 PLY to PNZ
2E17 13:49 PNZ to EXD
2P36 17:08 EXD to PLY
 
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REVUpminster

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I don't know what has happened on the branches today. Yesterday had optimum services. Today 2 shortforms and one cancelation (hour gap) Paignton Exmouth. Shortform Barnstaple busy train. Two hour gap on Newquay with the 175 first trip cancelled. Falmouth second train cancelled, 72 minute gap. Only 5 turbos as against 6 yesterday. Even the Manchester train was 4 car and London Paignton 5 car.
 
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Two unit-related problems back to back at Penzance yesterday (Monday). The 2P16 (1315 PNZ-PLY) cancelled "unknown cause" then the 2P17 (1350 PNZ-PLY) delayed +30 then cancelled after 175007 failed between Truro and Redruth as 2C18 EXD-PNZ (which had been started from Newton Abbot in any case). Thankfully there were enough unreserved seats on the next London train to mop up the large number of passengers.

Until things improve, I wouldn't count on any 175 service actually operating as planned.
 
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Can cold storage really have caused this much damage to these trains? Before CAF got involved they were running around Wales and the Borders with no issues at all.

Strikes me that @XFeed knows more about them then Laira.
 
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The Prisoner said:
Can cold storage really have caused this much damage to these trains? Before CAF got involved they were running around Wales and the Borders with no issues at all.
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It most definitely can.
When 010 arrived at Penzance, it supposedly was completely messed up with all sorts of pests living inside the unit (including maggots in the AC apparently) and obviously a bunch of electronics no longer functional due to rain water damage after being sat still in the open air. Hence why units take so long to finish their work at Wolverton before heading down to Laira as there's so much to do with the units that have spent so long sat there coldly.

It's not a way that trains should be stored. If it was a case like with Lumo West Coast where the units arrive immediately after withdrawal (I know this was impossible with GWR and TfW as the actual signing of the lease wasn't carried out until about 85% of the fleet were stored cold at Ely and Lumo themselves being very unique as they're a "new" operator to the line) then I'm sure they would've fared much more positively and arrive in greater number in shorter timeframes.
It would have a similar impact on any train you put in those conditions, look at the state of some of the ex-EMR 180s that were transferred to Litchurch Lane not too long ago, they're not in a good condition.
 
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REVUpminster said:
I don't know what has happened on the branches today. Yesterday had optimum services. Today 2 shortforms and one cancelation (hour gap) Paignton Exmouth. Shortform Barnstaple busy train. Two hour gap on Newquay with the 175 first trip cancelled. Falmouth second train cancelled, 72 minute gap. Only 5 turbos as against 6 yesterday. Even the Manchester train was 4 car and London Paignton 5 car.
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Re the busy Barnstaple, it's half term so no issues with a 2 car.
 
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The Prisoner said:
Can cold storage really have caused this much damage to these trains? Before CAF got involved they were running around Wales and the Borders with no issues at all.

Strikes me that @XFeed knows more about them then Laira.
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I may know a little bit about the units ;)

I am sure Laira are trying everything they can to sort them out as, they, like everyone else wants the 175s to operate reliably as it makes their job easier in the long run.

I don`t think that you can blame CAF for all the recent problems to be fair.
 
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Apedlar12 said:
These should be the current diagrams involving passenger workings, but of course they are subject to change each day.

Mon-Fri:

2C00 05:33 PLY to PNZ
2E06 07:43 PNZ to EXD
2C20 11:27 EXD to PNZ
2P20 15:15 PNZ to PLY

3E05 05:40 PLY to EXD
2C05 06:55 EXD to PNZ
2E11 10:50 PNZ to EXD
2C32 15:28 EXD to PNZ
2E28 19:15 PNZ to EXD
5P28 22:56 EXD to XLZ

3N02 06:12 PLY to PAR
2N02 07:07 PAR to NQY
2N03 08:22 NQY to PAR
2N06 09:16 PAR to NQY
2N07 10:28 NQY to PAR
2N10 11:21 PAR to NQY
2N11 12:17 NQY to PAR
2N14 13:16 PAR to NQY
2N15 14:28 NQY to PAR
2N18 15:15 PAR to NQY
2N19 16:18 NQY to PAR
2N22 17:17 PAR to NQY
2N23 18:22 NQY to PAR
2N26 19:16 PAR to NQY
2N27 20:28 NQY to PAR
5P99 21:35 PAR to XLZ

2E04 08:49 PLY to EXD
2C18 10:27 EXD to PNZ
2P17 13:50 PNZ to PLY
2C31 15:56 PLY to PNZ
2P27 18:50 PNZ to PLY

2C26 13:39 PLY to PNZ
2P21 15:52 PNZ to PLY

Sat:

3E42 04:00 XLZ to EXD
2C42 08:00 EXD to PNZ
2P18 11:50 PNZ to PLY
2C53 14:43 PLY to PNZ
2P30 17:15 PNZ to PLY

2C05 05:15 PLY to PNZ
2P10 07:40 PNZ to PLY
2C49 12:42 PLY to PNZ
2P24 15:15 PNZ to PLY

5N02 05:26 PLY to PAR
2N02 07:03 PAR to NQY
2N03 08:12 NQY to PAR
2N06 09:05 PAR to NQY
2N07 10:10 NQY to PAR
2N10 11:30 PAR to NQY
2N11 12:31 NQY to PAR
2N14 13:38 PAR to NQY
2N15 14:47 NQY to PAR
2N20 16:22 PAR to NQY
2N21 17:40 NQY to PAR
2N24 18:34 PAR to NQY
2N25 19:38 NQY to PAR
2N28 20:32 PAR to NQY
2P97 21:24 NQY to PLY

3C12 06:20 XLZ to PNZ
2E12 08:50 PNZ to EXD
2C51 12:19 EXD to PNZ
2P26 15:50 PNZ to PLY

2C40 08:07 PLY to PNZ
2E16 10:39 PNZ to EXD
2P56 14:22 EXD to PLY
2C57 16:38 PLY to PNZ
2P95 19:30 PNZ to PLY

Sun:

2C06 08:45 PLY to PNZ
2E13 11:49 PNZ to EXD
2C32 15:27 EXD to PNZ
2P28 19:15 PNZ to PLY

5N08 08:59 PLY to PAR
2N08 10:12 PAR to NQY
2N09 11:18 NQY to PAR
2N16 14:38 PAR to NQY
2N19 15:52 NQY to PAR
2N22 17:15 PAR to NQY
2N23 18:16 NQY to PAR
2N26 19:35 PAR to NQY
2N27 20:29 NQY to PAR
5P27 21:45 PAR to XLZ

2C20 10:32 PLY to PNZ
2E17 13:49 PNZ to EXD
2P36 17:08 EXD to PLY
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Many thanks this is great
 
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The Prisoner said:
Can cold storage really have caused this much damage to these trains? Before CAF got involved they were running around Wales and the Borders with no issues at all.

Strikes me that @XFeed knows more about them then Laira.
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Bear in mind they weren't exactly in great condition even before they went into storage.

I've attached a photo of the final 175 I ever drove. ECS to Chester with various safety systems isolated, hence the purple light on.
It seemed kind of fitting at the time.

IMG_20231002_210415736.jpg
 
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The Prisoner said:
Can cold storage really have caused this much damage to these trains? Before CAF got involved they were running around Wales and the Borders with no issues at all.
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Cold storage shouldn't cause problems if stored dry.

However if insufficient moisture absorption material is used will be damp, and have condensation inside, if it gets cold enough to be frosty that will freeze. Needless to say delicate electronics, sensors, electric circuits and motors do not take kindly to thawing ice. If it is very damp might be biological problems (mould spores) too.
 
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REVUpminster said:
www.railadvent.co.uk

Trains ready for testing if new Marchwood and Southampton to London service is approved

A decision is expected soon by the Office of Rail and Road for Alliance Rail's proposed new service from Marchwood to Southampton and London Waterloo.
www.railadvent.co.uk www.railadvent.co.uk
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Not happening.

www.bbc.co.uk

Waterside rail reopening rejected by regulator

Plans to restore services on a line in Hampshire are dashed over capacity and viability concerns.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
Plans to reinstate passenger rail services on a line in Hampshire have been rejected by a government regulator.
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craigybagel said:
Bear in mind they weren't exactly in great condition even before they went into storage.

I've attached a photo of the final 175 I ever drove. ECS to Chester with various safety systems isolated, hence the purple light on.
It seemed kind of fitting at the time.

View attachment 204872
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I just cant see which safety systems have been isolated on the isolation panel but it looks like the far car has the bodyside hazard light lit ?
 
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Snow1964 said:
Cold storage shouldn't cause problems if stored dry.

However if insufficient moisture absorption material is used will be damp, and have condensation inside, if it gets cold enough to be frosty that will freeze. Needless to say delicate electronics, sensors, electric circuits and motors do not take kindly to thawing ice. If it is very damp might be biological problems (mould spores) too.
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A signicant number of the fleet were stored for a year outside 60m from the marina at Holyhead.
 
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Ashley Hill said:
I never knew about the purple light until now. Questions will be asked when I go back to work!
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First and so far only time I've ever seen it for real!
XFeed said:
I just cant see which safety systems have been isolated on the isolation panel but it looks like the far car has the bodyside hazard light lit ?
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I have a funny feeling door interlock was one of the things that was broken on it alright - but it was 2½ years ago now so I'm not certain. It wasn't anything that had an impact on driving but it was serious enough it had to go empty to Chester from Canton, they couldn't fix it down there.

I took photos of every 175 I drove back then - because I knew one of them soon would be my last.
 
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