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East Yorkshire Motor Services, now part of Go-Ahead

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924 had a jolly day today - no audio announcements, no internal displays, stuck brakes, things going loose and banging in the lower saloon, missing screws on inside panels, engine warnings and a left display board that decided it didn't want to do M1/M3 and so decided to go to Goole Hospital instead

Thankfully the service was in the hands of a veteran and experienced driver, Sharon
 
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B7 Gemini 20705 was on the 141 today and sounded great travelling at speed. Am pleased to see the Centro's are staying for now - great vehicles.
 

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B7 Gemini 20705 was on the 141 today and sounded great travelling at speed. Am pleased to see the Centro's are staying for now - great vehicles.
Looks like 705 has moved to Bridlington it's been there for past few days
 

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Considering its an oddball in the fleet being the only one left how long has 20348 got before its withdrawn?
 

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924 had a jolly day today - no audio announcements, no internal displays, stuck brakes, things going loose and banging in the lower saloon, missing screws on inside panels, engine warnings and a left display board that decided it didn't want to do M1/M3 and so decided to go to Goole Hospital instead

Thankfully the service was in the hands of a veteran and experienced driver, Sharon
At least 924 could do the full duty and make it back to Hull! Vehicle presentation like that is really appalling though.
 

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Considering its an oddball in the fleet being the only one left how long has 20348 got before its withdrawn?
Well, its taxed until April 2027 so I can't see it going anytime soon in my own opinion - at least it has a chance of getting to make its 20th birthday in November

It will be a very sad day for me when it is sold on or scrapped

At least 924 could do the full duty and make it back to Hull! Vehicle presentation like that is really appalling though.
That is true - never seen one of the Eastrider vehicles in such an appalling state
 

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Considering its an oddball in the fleet being the only one left how long has 20348 got before its withdrawn?
It along with 698 and 705 were meant to be going this year, all 3 are on borrowed time really due to the age of them
 

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That is true - never seen one of the Eastrider vehicles in such an appalling state
For what are meant to be premium buses for a long distance route, that are relatively Young (6 years old) and operated by a large company such as EY, I'd expect much better.

Unrelated but does anyone know anything about when Tap On Tap Off is coming? I've seen Tap Off readers installed on lots of EY buses and also on Procters vehicles but haven't seen anything announced publicly as of yet. Is it just the behind the scenes stuff that is being sorted out now?
 

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For what are meant to be premium buses for a long distance route, that are relatively Young (6 years old) and operated by a large company such as EY, I'd expect much better.

Unrelated but does anyone know anything about when Tap On Tap Off is coming? I've seen Tap Off readers installed on lots of EY buses and also on Procters vehicles but haven't seen anything announced publicly as of yet. Is it just the behind the scenes stuff that is being sorted out now?
EY posted a picture of the TOTO machine on their Facebook page on 24 March saying "Tap on, tap off is coming very soon" but nothing has been said since then.

The 41 hasn't had an EastRider branded vehicle on it for the past six days; there was even an Enviro 200 on it yesterday which was full and standing at Beverley Bus Station. I think any pretence that EastRider is 'premium' has long gone.
 

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EY posted a picture of the TOTO machine on their Facebook page on 24 March saying "Tap on, tap off is coming very soon" but nothing has been said since then.

The 41 hasn't had an EastRider branded vehicle on it for the past six days; there was even an Enviro 200 on it yesterday which was full and standing at Beverley Bus Station. I think any pretence that EastRider is 'premium' has long gone.
Weird about TOTO, EY is one of the biggest companies in the region without it. Hopefully its coming soon as people often board and will immediately tap their card/phone on the reader only for it to be rejected. People are now seeing TOTO as the normal so are surprised when EY doesn't have it.

The X45 is also seeing a downgrade as an Eastrider route. The 3 E200 MMCs that were brand new for the route are now in West Yorkshire and now the very 58 plate Plaxton Centros they replaced are back on the route.
 

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Weird about TOTO, EY is one of the biggest companies in the region without it. Hopefully its coming soon as people often board and will immediately tap their card/phone on the reader only for it to be rejected. People are now seeing TOTO as the normal so are surprised when EY doesn't have it.

The X45 is also seeing a downgrade as an Eastrider route. The 3 E200 MMCs that were brand new for the route are now in West Yorkshire and now the very 58 plate Plaxton Centros they replaced are back on the route.
Suprisingly Stagecoach haven't got TOTO yet so EY ain't the only one
 

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Unrelated but does anyone know anything about when Tap On Tap Off is coming? I've seen Tap Off readers installed on lots of EY buses and also on Procters vehicles but haven't seen anything announced publicly as of yet. Is it just the behind the scenes stuff that is being sorted out now?
Mid-June was the latest suggested date for its rollout.
Weird about TOTO, EY is one of the biggest companies in the region without it. Hopefully its coming soon as people often board and will immediately tap their card/phone on the reader only for it to be rejected. People are now seeing TOTO as the normal so are surprised when EY doesn't have it.
It's noticeable in York, passengers who are presumably accustomed to it on First buses trying to use it and having to explain to them that it's not yet operable and they still need a "proper" ticket.
 

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Mid-June was the latest suggested date for its rollout.

It's noticeable in York, passengers who are presumably accustomed to it on First buses trying to use it and having to explain to them that it's not yet operable and they still need a "proper" ticket.
Ah thanks. People In York are also used to it on Transdev.
Suprisingly Stagecoach haven't got TOTO yet so EY ain't the only one
True, but other Go Ahead opcos have had it for a while now.
 

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Is there any update on the dedicated Go Ahead West Yorkshire website that was set to launch with the Bradford services? The last I heard about it was "Coming Soon" in April with the announcement of the Bradford services.
 

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E200 MMC 20303 has also had Eastrider vinyls removed for transfer to West Yorkshire.

EY Enthusiasts reports the following changes:
20302, 20303, 20304 (E200 MMCs) - Bridlington to Fourways (Go Ahead West Yorkshire)
20364, 20365, 20366 (Plaxton Centros) - Hull to Bridlington, presumably for the X45
20374 (E200) - Hull to Procters
20388 (E200) - Hull to Scarborough
20392, 20394 (B8RLE Evolutions) - Hull to Compass Royston
20397, 20398 (B8RLE Evoras) - Hull to Fourways (Go Ahead West Yorkshire)
20523 (E200 MMC) - Pocklington to Fourways (Go Ahead West Yorkshire)
21006 (E200) - Procters to Fourways (Go Ahead West Yorkshire), where it will likely reassume fleet number 24009.

Expect quite a few fleet number changes...

Also the following regarding the B7TL Open-Top fleet:
20892 is complete from paintshop and is going through MOT.
20894 is also complete from paintshop.
20896 is in bodyshop.
What happened to them replacing the older fleet with electrics?
 

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What happened to them replacing the older fleet with electrics?
One presumes its something to do with the fact some are already broken or withdrawn from traffic due to front end smashes

I'm sure @Eyersey468 could confirm but there will be a period of bedding in of the new electric vehicles to ensure they have no teething issues so perhaps some vehicles will be retained for that in the short term.

In addition, there's been a significant rise in the West Yorkshire PVR with the new Bradford work and the stuff taken on when Yorkshire Buses folded.
 

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I'm sure @Eyersey468 could confirm but there will be a period of bedding in of the new electric vehicles to ensure they have no teething issues so perhaps some vehicles will be retained for that in the short term.

In addition, there's been a significant rise in the West Yorkshire PVR with the new Bradford work and the stuff taken on when Yorkshire Buses folded.
Yes I believe they are still bedding the electric buses in though a good number of them are now on the road
 

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Yes I believe they are still bedding the electric buses in though a good number of them are now on the road
Thanks - there is often the odd teething problem so keeping a couple of extras on makes sense as they settle down.
Also reported that B8RLE Evolution 20386 has transferred to West Yorkshire.
I know it makes some sense to send the B8RLEs to West Yorkshire where the operating terrain is more challenging but the main fleet is looking a bit peachy in places.
 

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I know it makes some sense to send the B8RLEs to West Yorkshire where the operating terrain is more challenging but the main fleet is looking a bit peachy in places
I've heard that a longer term plan is to replace the B7RLEs in West Yorkshire with newer buses.

I'm surprised not more of the main fleet has been rebranded into North Riding. Since the announcement in February that all of EY's North Yorkshire services (including Procters) will be branded as North Riding, 0 vehicles have received the branding. I believe its only an overnight job so doesn't require taking vehicles out of service.

The older Geminis are certainly starting to show their age though. Hopefully something is on the horizon for a large scale replacement in the future.
 

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I've heard that a longer term plan is to replace the B7RLEs in West Yorkshire with newer buses.
Over how long a term? Those buses are 14-reg – East Yorkshire have a huge number of Volvos that are at least 5 years older than that in squadron service, so why would a relatively minor route in West Yorkshire (which they might not even have in a couple of years' time) be prioritised for new buses?
I'm surprised not more of the main fleet has been rebranded into North Riding. Since the announcement in February that all of EY's North Yorkshire services (including Procters) will be branded as North Riding, 0 vehicles have received the branding. I believe its only an overnight job so doesn't require taking vehicles out of service.
It may be that with so much movement around, they want to wait until the fleet is settled before rebranding any vehicles, just to make sure that they don't end up changing things round again and then having to re-rebrand them a couple of months down the line.
 

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Over how long a term? Those buses are 14-reg – East Yorkshire have a huge number of Volvos that are at least 5 years older than that in squadron service, so why would a relatively minor route in West Yorkshire (which they might not even have in a couple of years' time) be prioritised for new buses?
I believe the idea was buses would be cascaded from East Yorkshire so that the B7RLEs could return to East Yorkshire. No idea about the timescale.
It may be that with so much movement around, they want to wait until the fleet is settled before rebranding any vehicles, just to make sure that they don't end up changing things round again and then having to re-rebrand them a couple of months down the line.
True but now they just have buses running around in redundant branding (York Locals, Scarborough Locals, Scarborough Sevens, ValeRider, Procters, etc). Even just removing the branding and possibly having just East Yorkshire branding would be better. Who knows when, even if, the fleet will ever settle at the rate buses are moved around?
 

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Although removing the name East Yorkshire, go Yorkshire as the name would maybe make sense
 

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Is there an age limit on the West Yorkshire contracts? If so, that would explain the requirement for newer vehicle.
 

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Although removing the name East Yorkshire, go Yorkshire as the name would maybe make sense
If Go Ahead does very well in franchising in West Yorkshire, I wouldn't be surprised to see the West Yorkshire business separated from the East Yorkshire business.
 

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I've heard that a longer term plan is to replace the B7RLEs in West Yorkshire with newer buses.

I'm surprised not more of the main fleet has been rebranded into North Riding. Since the announcement in February that all of EY's North Yorkshire services (including Procters) will be branded as North Riding, 0 vehicles have received the branding. I believe its only an overnight job so doesn't require taking vehicles out of service.

The older Geminis are certainly starting to show their age though. Hopefully something is on the horizon for a large scale replacement in the future.
I don't even want to think of the Gemini's leaving; I still remember the last day of Bristol VR's in frontline service with a lump in my throat!

As per bustimes just under 60% of EY's bus fleet is aged 12 years or older so someone's going to have to go shopping before long.
 

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